• Trump Harris debate

    From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to All on Tue Sep 10 20:35:04 2024
    Listening to Kamala is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.

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  • From W5jsn@VERT/TUCUMCAR to Denn on Wed Sep 11 11:48:02 2024
    Listening to Kamala is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.

    Although I agree, I think she was successful in the aim of making Trump look unpalatable to several more groups. I fear that she will succeed in winning the presidency, do to a combination of handouts and flattering emotional people with a pretty painting that she tricks voters into hoping she can produce but cannot.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to W5jsn on Wed Sep 11 16:55:31 2024
    Although I agree, I think she was successful in the aim of making Trump look unpalatable to several more groups. I fear that she will succeed in winning the presidency, do to a combination of handouts and flattering emotional people with a pretty painting that she tricks voters into hoping she can produce but cannot.

    I think Trump was pretty successful making her own this economy.
    Gas prices went up another 10 cents today in my area.
    The economy mattyers most Ithink.

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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to Denn on Wed Sep 11 22:43:00 2024
    Listening to Kamala is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.

    │ Hardest possible disagree. I'd rather listen to her than the word salad that │ falls out of Trump's mouth.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to halian on Thu Sep 12 08:26:47 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: halian to Denn on Wed Sep 11 2024 10:43 pm

    Listening to Kamala is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.

    │ Hardest possible disagree. I'd rather listen to her than the word salad that │ falls out of Trump's mouth.

    Lol, you're deflecting.
    Kamala is famous for her word salads.

    Harris on diplomacy: "We will assist Jamaica in COVID recovery by assisting in terms of the recovery efforts in Jamaica"

    "I think that, to be very honest with you, I do believe that we should have rightly believed, but we certainly believe that certain issues are just settled. Certain issues are just settled."

    You need to be able to go where you need to go if you want to go there and do the work you are supposed to do when you arrive.

    Save the moment that relates to the past and remember it in the future. Thats how you're able to contextualize the present.

    The significance of the passage of time is much more significant than what we would like to think. It's, in fact, a significant significance. One that signifies a lot, whether you consider it or you don't.

    Every day, it's time for us to agree that time is passing faster than we thought yesterday. We need to look at the time now because if we do it later, it won't be the same time.

    When you look at a coconut tree, you realize it's contextual. There's no coconut tree without your previously lived experience that came before, and you can't be certain that the coconut tree will be there in the future, unless you, too, are there, with it, in consequential mindfulness.

    There are things we know, and there are things we don't know yet. Based on what we have seen, we know.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to W5JSN on Thu Sep 12 09:39:00 2024
    Listening to Kamala is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.

    Although I agree, I think she was successful in the aim of making Trump look unpalatable to several more groups. I fear that she will succeed in winning th
    presidency, do to a combination of handouts and flattering emotional people with a pretty painting that she tricks voters into hoping she can produce but cannot.

    Yeah, I think Trump is making the same mistake he did 4 years ago by
    targeting most of his message towards his loyal base and not towards the undecided voters and moderate thinkers. He did a good job of that in 2016
    but completely failed to in 2020 and seems to be missing the mark again.

    Kamala, OTOH, seems to be at least talking a good talk when it comes to moving more towards center than she previously seemed to be.

    The one thing that might save Trump is how many of those undecides and moderates decide to hold her accountable for what has happened the past
    four years vs. believing that she is really a different option from the
    current administration.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HALIAN on Thu Sep 12 09:21:00 2024
    Hardest possible disagree. I'd rather listen to her than the word salad that falls out of Trump's mouth.

    Neither one of them did a good job, at all, of answering questions they
    were asked. She flat out dodged at least three, and he kept steering the conversation to illegal immigrants.

    All they both did was spend most of the night attacking the other vs.
    actually telling us much of anything about what they themselves might do.
    It was a very disappointing showing.


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 12 13:04:50 2024
    Neither one of them did a good job, at all, of answering questions they
    were asked. She flat out dodged at least three, and he kept steering the conversation to illegal immigrants.

    All they both did was spend most of the night attacking the other vs. actually telling us much of anything about what they themselves might do.
    It was a very disappointing showing.


    Trump actually did a good job tying Kamala to the Biden policies and Gas prices and high inflation.
    He did spend to much time on her total lies.
    It was 3 vs 1, he should never agree to a debate with bias media organization. The only reason they were pretty fair on the Trump Biden debate is because those moderators were in on the Biden takedown.

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  • From Weed Hopper@VERT/LOCALYOC to Denn on Thu Sep 12 15:09:07 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Denn to All on Tue Sep 10 2024 08:35 pm

    Listening to Kamala is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.

    If she is installed in office I will dread listening to her for the next four years, let alone the harm she will do to this country.

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  • From Weed Hopper@VERT/LOCALYOC to Denn on Thu Sep 12 15:13:30 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Denn to halian on Thu Sep 12 2024 08:26 am

    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: halian to Denn on Wed Sep 11 2024 10:43 pm

    Listening to Kamala is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.

    │ Hardest possible disagree. I'd rather listen to her than the word sal that │ falls out of Trump's mouth.

    Lol, you're deflecting.
    Kamala is famous for her word salads.

    Harris on diplomacy: "We will assist Jamaica in COVID recovery by assisting terms of the recovery efforts in Jamaica"

    "I think that, to be very honest with you, I do believe that we should have rightly believed, but we certainly believe that certain issues are just settled. Certain issues are just settled."

    You need to be able to go where you need to go if you want to go there and d the work you are supposed to do when you arrive.

    Save the moment that relates to the past and remember it in the future. That how you're able to contextualize the present.

    The significance of the passage of time is much more significant than what w would like to think. It's, in fact, a significant significance. One that signifies a lot, whether you consider it or you don't.

    Every day, it's time for us to agree that time is passing faster than we thought yesterday. We need to look at the time now because if we do it later it won't be the same time.

    When you look at a coconut tree, you realize it's contextual. There's no coconut tree without your previously lived experience that came before, and can't be certain that the coconut tree will be there in the future, unless y too, are there, with it, in consequential mindfulness.

    There are things we know, and there are things we don't know yet. Based on w we have seen, we know.

    ... Talk is cheap -- supply exceeds demand!


    Thanks Denn. I felt my IQ dropping and I started drooling while reading this...

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  • From W5jsn@VERT/TUCUMCAR to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 12 14:52:48 2024
    I wanted to hear more about who Kamala is and what she believes, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards. Neither her or the media are interested in being revelatory. Everyone who votes for her will just have to hope for good things. I'm not that trusting.

    At least with Trump, I know what I am getting. A guy that the entire US government and political machine feels threatened by and wants to eliminate (assassinate) from running for any public office. He did what he could in the four years he was President and I am happy to give him four more years to work on it some more. I hope he can do a bit of swamp-draining before his enemies can find a better sharp-shooter, if he can overcome the various mechanisms and agencies twisted against him and win the electoral college.

    Kamala could do anything with the Presidency and no one can hold her to account for campaign promises she was never required to make. They ejected Biden and anointed Kamala in a party coup and she has every chance of gliding into the presidency through the Democrat election machine and by simply saying she is anti-Trump (while co-opting many of his initiatives). Any random person could be made President in the same way. That is what Kamie is - the random (yet pre-politically corrupted) person Biden picked for his "black woman" veep to placate certain interest groups. I see why my Demo friends like her - any one of them could have BEEN her. I don't think the Demo party really knows much about Harris, either. They just want ANYBODY but Trump - and Kamala fits the definition of ANYBODY.

    I don't know her politics outside of prosecuting cases brought to her - she was only a senator for less than one term and a very small and totally un-publicized voting record before she tried for the presidency and failed into the vice-presidency. We don't know what she stands for (she didn't have much time to stand for much of anything.) and she is not going to make statements about such things at this juncture. She may well have prosecuted illegals in California but she had no interest in dealing with them in Washington, so I don't really know how she "feels" about immigration (the one thing she did as AG that seemed interesting to let her play with as VP). She just supported Joe Biden as VP and then (loyally?) stepped over his failing (now vanished?) body to become an unchallenged presidential nominee.

    Doesn't inspire my vote at all. I can't see how it could inspire anyone's vote, but there are apparently half of Americans who hate Donald Trump so much they would vote for ANYONE else. If Kamie wins, I hold such people TOTALLY responsible for whatever happens next. And don't try that "lesser of two evils" tripe - You have no idea if Kamie is better or worse than Trump. She could be the "great whore of all the earth" for all you know - maybe Satan (he hides his agenda, too) in a pant-suit.

    I suppose most Dems are willing to let the unknown quantity loose. I will laugh if she sells you down the river and enslaves you to your government "mommies" for "your own good". Suckle while you can.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Denn on Thu Sep 12 17:02:30 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Denn to halian on Thu Sep 12 2024 08:26 am

    Lol, you're deflecting.
    Kamala is famous for her word salads.

    "In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in they're eating the cats, they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that live there"

    I know that's not word quite word-salad, but it is pure derangement.

    Biden did the right thing by dropping out. Trump should do the same thing, he's mentally unfit for the job.

    Just look at how riled up he got when Harris said his rallies were small, and that people were bored. He couldn't hold back.

    "Just think of it. We would be in World War Two very quickly if we're going to be relying on this man, and far more devastating than any war."

    (Another Trump quote from the same speech a year ago where he forogot he would be running against Biden, and suggested that his opponent was Obama. )

    social media is full of people laughing at his word salad rambling. It's been an ongoing joke for the last 8+ years, and it's only gotten worse.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Denn on Thu Sep 12 17:07:23 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 12 2024 01:04 pm

    Trump actually did a good job tying Kamala to the Biden policies and Gas prices and high inflation.
    He did spend to much time on her total lies. It was 3 vs 1, he should never agree to a debate with bias media organization. The only reason they were pretty fair on the Trump Biden debate is because those moderators were in on the Biden takedown.

    HOW DARE the moderators fact check!



    High gas prices and high inflation were a direct result of Covid.

    That said, I just filled up yesterday for $2.72 a gallon. seems pretty good to me.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 12 16:58:48 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Denn to halian on Thu Sep 12 2024 08:26 am

    "In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in they're eating the cats, they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that live there"

    I know that's not word quite word-salad, but it is pure derangement.

    Biden did the right thing by dropping out. Trump should do the same thing, he's mentally unfit for the job.

    Just look at how riled up he got when Harris said his rallies were small, and that people were bored. He couldn't hold back.

    "Just think of it. We would be in World War Two very quickly if we're going to be relying on this man, and far more devastating than any war."

    (Another Trump quote from the same speech a year ago where he forogot he would be running against Biden, and suggested that his opponent was Obama. )

    social media is full of people laughing at his word salad rambling. It's been an ongoing joke for the last 8+ years, and it's only gotten worse.

    Non of that is word salad, everyone makes mistakes with names, just look at the idiot moderator in opening the debates said her and Trumps administration.
    That also was just a mistake.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 12 17:01:11 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 12 2024 01:04 pm

    HOW DARE the moderators fact check!

    High gas prices and high inflation were a direct result of Covid.

    That said, I just filled up yesterday for $2.72 a gallon. seems pretty good to me.

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    Oh wait, they failed to fact check Kamala, independat fact checkers did that, and also found Trump was more truthful.

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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to Denn on Thu Sep 12 20:31:00 2024
    ║ Kamala is famous for her word salads. ╚═╦═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════ [quote from Denn]
    ║ ...And Trump isn't? See below for an example, from his talk with the
    ║ Economic Club of New York last Thursday:
    ╚═╦═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════
    ║ President Trump, you - you talked about how the increase in the price of
    ║ food, gas and rent is hurting families, but the real cost that's
    ║ breaking families' backs and preventing women from participating in the
    ║ workforce is child care. Child care is now more expensive than rent for
    ║ working families and is costing the economy more than $122 billion a
    ║ year, making it one of the most urgent economic issues that is facing
    ║ our country. In fact, the cost of child care is outpacing the cost of
    ║ inflation, with the majority of American families of young children
    ║ spending more than 20% of their income on child care. One thing that
    ║ Democrats and Republicans have in common is that both parties talk a lot
    ║ about what they're going to do to address the child care crisis, but
    ║ neither party has delivered meaningful change. If you win in November,
    ║ can you commit to prioritizing legislation to make child care
    ║ affordable? And if so, what specific piece of legislation will you
    ║ advance?
    ╚═╦════════════════════════════════════════ [question from Reshma Saujani]
    ║ Well, I would do that. And we're sitting down - you know, I was
    ║ somebody - we had - Sen. Marco Rubio and my daughter Ivanka were so
    ║ impactful on that issue. It's a very important issue. But I think when
    ║ you talk about the kind of numbers that I'm talking about, that -
    ║ because, look, child care is child care. It's - couldn't - you know,
    ║ it's something - you have to have it. In this country, you have to
    ║ have it. But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of
    ║ numbers that I'm talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels
    ║ that they're not used to, but they'll get used to it very quickly -
    ║ and it's not going to stop them from doing business with us but
    ║ they'll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our
    ║ country. Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we're
    ║ talking about, including child care. That - it's going to take care -
    ║ we're going to have - I - I look forward to having no deficits within
    ║ a fairly short period of time, coupled with the reductions that I told
    ║ you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are
    ║ going on in our country. Because I have to say with child care - I
    ║ want to stay with child care - but those numbers are small relative
    ║ to the kind of economic numbers that I'm talking about, including
    ║ growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just -
    ║ that I just told you about. We're going to be taking in trillions of
    ║ dollars. And as much as child care is talked about as being
    ║ expensive, it's, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to
    ║ the kind of numbers we'll be taking in. We're going to make this into
    ║ an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people, and
    ║ then we'll worry about the rest of the world. Let's help other
    ║ people, but we're going to take care of our country first. This is
    ║ about America first, it's about Make America Great Again. We have to
    ║ do it because right now we're a failing nation. So we'll take care of
    ║ it. Thank you. Very good question.
    ╚══════════════════════════════════════════ [response from Donald Trump]

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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 12 20:32:00 2024
    ║ Neither one of them did a good job, at all, of answering questions they
    ║ were asked. She flat out dodged at least three, and he kept steering the
    ║ conversation to illegal immigrants.

    ║ All they both did was spend most of the night attacking the other vs.
    ║ actually telling us much of anything about what they themselves might do.
    ║ It was a very disappointing showing. ╚═╦═════════════════════════════════════════════════ [quote from Dumas Walker]
    ║ Unfortunately, unless the organizers and moderators do something to rein
    ║ candidates in, I think the age of the debate, at least as we've known it,
    ║ is on the way out.
    ╚══════════════════════════════════════ Your time was just wasted by ╠╣âlian

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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 12 20:34:00 2024
    ║ I know that's not word quite word-salad, but it is pure derangement.

    ║ Biden did the right thing by dropping out. Trump should do the same thing,
    ║ he's mentally unfit for the job. ╚═╦═════════════════════════════════════════════════════ [quote from DaiTengu]
    ║ There *really* needs to be a maximum age to run for office. I'd set it to
    ║ the federal retirement age.
    ╚══════════════════════════════════════ Your time was just wasted by ╠╣âlian

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to halian on Thu Sep 12 18:26:23 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: halian to Denn on Thu Sep 12 2024 08:31 pm

    ║ Kamala is famous for her word salads. ╚═╦═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════ [quote from Denn] ║ ...And Trump isn't? See below for an example, from his talk with the ║ Economic Club of New York last Thursday: ╚═╦════════════════════════ ═════════════════════════════════════════════════ ║ President Trump, you - you talked about how the increase in the price of ║ food, gas and rent is

    The program you're using to respond to messages generates replies that get formatted in a messy way when quoted..

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Denn on Fri Sep 13 02:44:28 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Denn to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 12 2024 05:01 pm

    Oh wait, they failed to fact check Kamala, independat fact checkers did that, and also found Trump was more truthful.

    He usually is... and it seems funny that when Trump says something that the mainstream media idiots laugh at, he usually ends up being right in the long run.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to W5jsn on Fri Sep 13 07:38:50 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: W5jsn to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 12 2024 02:52 pm

    I wanted to hear more about who Kamala is and what she believes, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards. Neither her or the media are interested in being revelatory. Everyone who votes for her will just have to hope for good things. I'm not that trusting.


    why do you want to hear more. she's been the vp for 4 years.
    it's not like she's a newcomer.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Bf2k+ on Fri Sep 13 07:18:23 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Bf2k+ to Denn on Fri Sep 13 2024 02:44 am

    Oh wait, they failed to fact check Kamala, independat fact checkers
    did that, and also found Trump was more truthful.

    He usually is... and it seems funny that when Trump says something that the mainstream media idiots laugh at, he usually ends up being right in the long run.


    Yep, and there are local sources there in Ohio for the story.
    You know it must be true when the leftwing media acts like it's been debunked.
    Like the Russia hoax and the Hunter Laptop.

    NBC
    Former President Donald Trump, during Tuesday’s presidential debate, repeated a baseless and sensationalist claim about Haitian immigrants in Ohio eating dogs and other pets.

    NPR
    Vance, who represents Ohio in the U.S. Senate, spread a debunked claim about Haitian migrants living in the city of Springfield, Ohio, on Monday.

    BBC
    Donald Trump claimed immigrants in a small Ohio city were eating pets, but there's no proof of this.

    AP NEWS
    Former President Donald Trump has amplified false rumors that Haitian immigrants in Ohio are abducting and eating pets.

    Rueters
    A viral narrative suggesting Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, are stealing residents' pets or taking wildlife from parks for food .


    and when this story is proven to be true they'll go silent on the matter.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to halian on Fri Sep 13 07:45:12 2024
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DENN on Fri Sep 13 08:37:00 2024
    It was 3 vs 1, he should never agree to a debate with bias media organization.
    The only reason they were pretty fair on the Trump Biden debate is because those moderators were in on the Biden takedown.

    Or it is too difficult to set someone up who isn't "all there" enough to
    pick up on it.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to W5JSN on Fri Sep 13 09:27:00 2024
    I wanted to hear more about who Kamala is and what she believes, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards. Neither her or the media are interested in being revelatory. Everyone who votes for her will just have to hope for good things. I'm not that trusting.

    Like Biden 4 years ago, she and Walz are doing a good job avoiding chances
    to talk when the media is present.

    For a lot of her voters, all they are hoping for is "not Trump."

    At least with Trump, I know what I am getting. A guy that the entire US government and political machine feels threatened by and wants to eliminate (assassinate) from running for any public office. He did what he could in the four years he was President and I am happy to give him four more years to work
    on it some more. I hope he can do a bit of swamp-draining before his enemies can find a better sharp-shooter, if he can overcome the various mechanisms and
    agencies twisted against him and win the electoral college.

    Yes. It is said that our elections have become "choosing the evil you
    know" or "the lesser of two evils" and not the best person for the job.

    I don't know her politics outside of prosecuting cases brought to her - she wa
    only a senator for less than one term and a very small and totally un-publicized voting record before she tried for the presidency and failed int
    the vice-presidency. We don't know what she stands for (she didn't have much time to stand for much of anything.) and she is not going to make statements about such things at this juncture. She may well have prosecuted illegals in California but she had no interest in dealing with them in Washington, so I don't really know how she "feels" about immigration (the one thing she did as AG that seemed interesting to let her play with as VP). She just supported Joe
    Biden as VP and then (loyally?) stepped over his failing (now vanished?) body to become an unchallenged presidential nominee.

    Well, if you go back and look at her prosecution record, there are those
    that claim it is full of things that contradict things she says now. I
    have not looked too close, so that could be true or not.

    Per CNN, in 2019, the non-partisan GovTrack organization ranked her as the "most liberal Senator" in the then-current Senate. That was a Senate that included Sanders and Warren.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/17/politics/kamala-harris-most-liberal-senator-fact-
    heck/index.html

    Doesn't inspire my vote at all. I can't see how it could inspire anyone's vote, but there are apparently half of Americans who hate Donald Trump so much
    they would vote for ANYONE else.

    Yes, they were willing to vote for Biden even thought it was obvious before
    the debate that he was failing mentally.

    I suppose most Dems are willing to let the unknown quantity loose. I will laug
    if she sells you down the river and enslaves you to your government "mommies" for "your own good". Suckle while you can.

    I am not a Dem and she doesn't really inspire me. Many of your more leftist Dems won't even notice (or care) if she sells them down a river. ;)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HALIAN on Fri Sep 13 08:50:00 2024
    ║ All they both did was spend most of the night attacking the other vs.
    ║ actually telling us much of anything about what they themselves might do.
    ║ It was a very disappointing showing. ╚═╦═════════════════════════════════════════════════ [quote from Dumas Walker]
    ║ Unfortunately, unless the organizers and moderators do something to rein
    ║ candidates in, I think the age of the debate, at least as we've known it,
    ║ is on the way out.

    IMHO, the moderators of the first debate did a much better job, but maybe
    that was because Trump (the only participant in both) seemed on better
    behavior at the first one.

    Back in time, I felt like PBS did a better job than other networks, but it
    has been a while since they have hosted one.


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to DaiTengu on Fri Sep 13 13:28:39 2024
    In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in they're eating the cats, they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that live there"

    Actually there are local reports and a couple of video's of haitians killing geese in a park.
    It's being ignored by the leftstream media.
    Not sure about the cats and dogs being eaten.

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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to Nightfox on Sat Sep 14 01:53:00 2024
    The program you're using to respond to messages generates replies that get formatted in a messy way when quoted..

    I'm doing it manually, so I'm not surprised. Mea culpa. orz |01════════════════════════════════════════ |03Something something |11╠╣âlian

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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 14 01:54:00 2024
    IMHO, the moderators of the first debate did a much better job, but maybe that was because Trump (the only participant in both) seemed on better behavior at the first one.

    And I fear that's not without reasons obvious yet unmentionable. :( |01═════════════════════════════════════════ |03Something something |11╠╣âlian

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DENN on Sat Sep 14 10:50:00 2024
    Yep, and there are local sources there in Ohio for the story.

    When I search for them, the local Ohio sources (example - The Canton Repository, the Ohio DNR) are also debunking the claims, or are claiming that the reports cannot be verified. Where are you finding Ohio sources that state the claims are true?

    Please share.


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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to DaiTengu on Sat Sep 14 20:31:38 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: DaiTengu to Denn on Thu Sep 12 2024 05:02 pm

    "In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in they're eating the cats, they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that live there"

    Do you live in Ohio? Do you live in Clark County, OH? Do you live in Springfield OH?

    I live 40 miles away from there. I've been there and it looks like a SHITHOLE. There arecrs flipped over, the pond there is EMPTY. It was quite the ecosystem for Canadian geese.

    Haitians are known to practice voodoo/witchcraft/black magic. They use and sometimes DO EAT CATS, PIGEONS, and HENS. Live or dead, they eat them and scarifice them.

    So unless you or anyone else has been there... STFU.

    /soapbox


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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to DaiTengu on Sat Sep 14 20:35:40 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: DaiTengu to Denn on Thu Sep 12 2024 05:07 pm

    HOW DARE the moderators fact check!

    Moderators have one job - ASK A QUESTION and SHUT THE FUCK UP.

    We don't do "fact checks", no one asked for your OPINION on ANYTHING.

    When has this happen before? This was a obscene abuse of the airwaves.

    But it's ok - WE are looking through the bullshit and smoke and mirrors.

    We know she put out to get to the top; she might give great head, but SHE'S STILL A BUMBLING COW, THAT COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT **ANYONE**, EVEN HER OWN.

    WAKE THE EFF UP.

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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Bf2k+ on Sat Sep 14 20:38:12 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Bf2k+ to Denn on Fri Sep 13 2024 02:44 am

    He usually is... and it seems funny that when Trump says something that the mainstream media idiots laugh at, he usually ends up being right in the long run.

    FACTS!

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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to MRO on Sat Sep 14 20:41:57 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: MRO to W5jsn on Fri Sep 13 2024 07:38 am

    why do you want to hear more. she's been the vp for 4 years.
    it's not like she's a newcomer.

    Trump even suggested... Go over to the White House and sign a piece of paper to CLOSE THE BORDER NOW...

    That was days ago... Border has been forgoten.

    SHE DOESN'T CARE. IF she did, she would have had Joe break out a pen and sign an EO to CLOSE the BORDER IMMEDIATELY.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to KnightMare on Sat Sep 14 21:14:00 2024
    KnightMare wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: DaiTengu to Denn on Thu Sep 12 2024 05:02 pm

    "In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in they're eating the cats, they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that live there"

    Do you live in Ohio? Do you live in Clark County, OH? Do you live in Springfield OH?

    I live 40 miles away from there. I've been there and it looks like a SHITHOLE. There arecrs flipped over, the pond there is EMPTY. It was
    quite the ecosystem for Canadian geese.

    Haitians are known to practice voodoo/witchcraft/black magic. They use
    and sometimes DO EAT CATS, PIGEONS, and HENS. Live or dead, they eat
    them and scarifice them.

    So unless you or anyone else has been there... STFU.

    So says the wanker who just posted to me in another echo, asking me who
    died and left me the boss.

    Nothing like a hypocrite, eh? FOAD.



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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Gamgee on Sun Sep 15 00:57:20 2024
    Re: Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Gamgee to KnightMare on Sat Sep 14 2024 09:14 pm

    Nothing like a hypocrite, eh? FOAD.

    Obviously you can't read either, you asshole.
    I said STFU not "disappear". Now crawl back into your UK Dictionary.

    Twat.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 14 22:37:42 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Dumas Walker to DENN on Sat Sep 14 2024 10:50 am

    the Alec Lace show.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOOXvUlSaTM

    911 call
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bMwJlmewQA

    I think the big story here is actually how Joe and Kamala sent 300k Haitians to different parts of the USA.
    20k of them went to Springfield, Ohio and the residents are angry, frustrated and they want out.

    Not sure if they're eating cats and dogs, but definatly they're eating Ducks and Geese.
    Not the worst thing in the world.

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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to KnightMare on Sun Sep 15 04:37:00 2024
    HOW DARE the moderators fact check!

    Moderators have one job - ASK A QUESTION and SHUT THE FUCK UP.

    No, their one job is to moderate the debate. Fact checking is part of debate moderation.

    We don't do "fact checks", no one asked for your OPINION on ANYTHING.

    Opinion is not a factor in fact checking.

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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to KnightMare on Sun Sep 15 04:37:00 2024
    WAKE THE EFF UP.

    Ever wondered why it's called "woke"? Get it or go broke.

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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to Gamgee on Sun Sep 15 04:39:00 2024
    So says the wanker who just posted to me in another echo, asking me who died and left me the boss.

    And you still have yet to answer their /quo warranto/, which makes it yawningly obvious that you *can't*.

    Nothing like a hypocrite, eh? FOAD.

    Someone pissed in their own corn flakes this morning.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to KnightMare on Sun Sep 15 07:49:00 2024
    KnightMare wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Gamgee to KnightMare on Sat Sep 14 2024 09:14 pm

    Nothing like a hypocrite, eh? FOAD.

    Obviously you can't read either, you asshole.
    I said STFU not "disappear".

    Your previous point was saying I was being an asshole to somebody. Just exactly what you then did. "STFU" is not exactly a kind thing to say.

    Doofus.



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DENN on Sun Sep 15 09:14:00 2024
    I think the big story here is actually how Joe and Kamala sent 300k Haitians t
    different parts of the USA.
    20k of them went to Springfield, Ohio and the residents are angry, frustrated and they want out.

    In this instance, I am not sure if Joe and Kamala sent them. It sounds
    like the mayor is convinced that some companies are behind it that are receiving FEMA money for relocating them. Now, did Kamala brag about
    getting Temporary Protective Status for these Haitian immigrants? Yes. Is FEMA handing out the money as a part of their administration? Yes.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Sun Sep 15 09:34:00 2024
    I said STFU not "disappear". Now crawl back into your UK Dictionary.

    I didn't know you relocated to the UK??? :D


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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Denn on Sun Sep 15 13:36:38 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 14 2024 10:37 pm


    I've been told that a lot of homeowners are being asked to sell their homes for an absurd amount of money to move these illegals in to them.

    Tell me again, how Biden-Harris good for us?

    She STILL has not closed the border.

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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to halian on Sun Sep 15 13:39:48 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: halian to KnightMare on Sun Sep 15 2024 04:37 am

    No, their one job is to moderate the debate. Fact checking is part of debate moderation.

    I must a little rusty here... Can you cite any Presidential Debate where FACT CHECKING was part of the platform?

    Opinion is not a factor in fact checking.

    The moderators are not supposed to give ANY opinions.

    That would be VOTER TAMPERING.

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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Gamgee on Sun Sep 15 13:46:38 2024
    Re: Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Gamgee to KnightMare on Sun Sep 15 2024 07:49 am

    Your previous point was saying I was being an asshole to somebody. Just exactly what you then did. "STFU" is not exactly a kind thing to say.

    I defended someone that was being attacked IMHO wrongly.

    Would you let someone get verbally abused and NOT try to defend them?
    Didnt think so.

    Let's just end this diatribe here. You got a beef w/ someone, then
    take it private. Else, someone is going to see what they see and
    act on it.

    There I end my stpry. Take that as an apology if you want.
    I stand by my convictions.

    In the internet, no one can hear your inflections. There's where most
    issues start.

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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 15 13:49:06 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Dumas Walker to DENN on Sun Sep 15 2024 09:14 am

    In this instance, I am not sure if Joe and Kamala sent them. It sounds like the mayor is convinced that some companies are behind it that are receiving FEMA money for relocating them. Now, did Kamala brag about getting Temporary Protective Status for these Haitian immigrants? Yes. Is FEMA handing out the money as a part of their administration? Yes.


    All this money for these people and not ONE DIME for homeless Vets.
    I love my country, but I hate my current goverment. At least Trump
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to KnightMare on Sun Sep 15 14:00:41 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: KnightMare to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 15 2024 01:49 pm



    All this money for these people and not ONE DIME for homeless Vets.
    I love my country, but I hate my current goverment. At least Trump
    gave a shit.


    they do have programs and housing for homeless vets.
    when i lived in milwaukee there were several places.

    they also had a dorm where you could live if you were low income.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 15 14:14:00 2024
    Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    I said STFU not "disappear". Now crawl back into your UK Dictionary.

    I didn't know you relocated to the UK??? :D

    Heh. Yeah, this Knightmare n00b says some strange things. Makes about
    as much sense as the rest of his drivel, I guess.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to KnightMare on Sun Sep 15 14:22:00 2024
    KnightMare wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Gamgee to KnightMare on Sun Sep 15 2024 07:49 am

    Your previous point was saying I was being an asshole to somebody. Just exactly what you then did. "STFU" is not exactly a kind thing to say.

    I defended someone that was being attacked IMHO wrongly.

    As did I.

    Would you let someone get verbally abused and NOT try to defend them? Didnt think so.

    Depends. If they were being an asshole and provoking things, then maybe
    not.

    Let's just end this diatribe here. You got a beef w/ someone, then
    take it private. Else, someone is going to see what they see and
    act on it.

    There I end my stpry. Take that as an apology if you want.
    I stand by my convictions.

    Fair enough.



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to KnightMare on Sun Sep 15 14:30:00 2024
    KnightMare wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Dumas Walker to DENN on Sun Sep 15 2024 09:14 am

    In this instance, I am not sure if Joe and Kamala sent them. It sounds like the mayor is convinced that some companies are behind it that are receiving FEMA money for relocating them. Now, did Kamala brag about getting Temporary Protective Status for these Haitian immigrants? Yes. Is FEMA handing out the money as a part of their administration? Yes.

    All this money for these people and not ONE DIME for homeless Vets.
    I love my country, but I hate my current goverment. At least Trump
    gave a shit.

    Well! Something we can actually agree upon here!



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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to KnightMare on Sun Sep 15 15:16:02 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: KnightMare to Denn on Sun Sep 15 2024 01:36 pm

    I've been told that a lot of homeowners are being asked to sell their homes for an absurd amount of money to move these illegals in to them.

    Tell me again, how Biden-Harris good for us?

    I'm not a Biden-Harris fan.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vwUMxShUYg4

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to KNIGHTMARE on Mon Sep 16 08:42:00 2024
    All this money for these people and not ONE DIME for homeless Vets.

    Yeah, that really pissed me off.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Mon Sep 16 09:01:00 2024
    they do have programs and housing for homeless vets.
    when i lived in milwaukee there were several places.

    they also had a dorm where you could live if you were low income.

    In some places, vets and old people are (supposedly!) being kicked out in
    favor of illegal immigrants because the owners of the facilities can get
    more money from the government for taking in immigrants vs. assisting the
    other groups.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Mon Sep 16 10:23:41 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Sep 16 2024 09:01 am

    they do have programs and housing for homeless vets.
    when i lived in milwaukee there were several places.

    they also had a dorm where you could live if you were low income.

    In some places, vets and old people are (supposedly!) being kicked out in favor of illegal immigrants because the owners of the facilities can get more money from the government for taking in immigrants vs. assisting the other groups.



    yeah that's how it works.
    but really, we shouldn't be supporting anybody forever, unless they were wounded in service. they had tinyhomes for vets in my old city and they tried to help them get back on their feet and get jobs but like 90% of these people wanted to get drunk and smoke and sit around all day. my neighbor had his father stay in one. they did a story on him in the paper. kicked out one year later. refused to take classes, refused to work, refused to look for work.
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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to KnightMare on Mon Sep 16 16:46:32 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: KnightMare to Denn on Sun Sep 15 2024 01:36 pm

    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 14 2024 10:37 pm
    Tell me again, how Biden-Harris good for us?

    She STILL has not closed the border.

    She has no intention of closing the border... or of doing anything else she promises.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to DaiTengu on Mon Sep 16 18:17:10 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: DaiTengu to Denn on Thu Sep 12 2024 05:07 pm


    High gas prices and high inflation were a direct result of Covid.


    They have nothing to do with the monetary policies and pseudocolonialist policies of the last, dunno, 40 yers, finally bursting XD


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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Bf2k+ on Mon Sep 16 22:13:53 2024
    Re: Trump Harris debate
    By: Bf2k+ to KnightMare on Mon Sep 16 2024 04:46 pm

    She has no intention of closing the border... or of doing anything else she promises.

    One of the RARE facts about her, right there.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tue Sep 17 08:18:00 2024
    but really, we shouldn't be supporting anybody forever, unless they were wounded in service.

    I agree that we shouldn't be supporting able-bodied, able-minded people forever.


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