• Anyone think there will be a third attempt on Trump?

    From Weed Hopper@VERT/LOCALYOC to All on Mon Sep 16 05:56:09 2024
    I do think there will be another one. I hope I'm wrong.

    I'm a Trump supporter, but if someone was trying to take out Kamala, I would still decry attempts on her life. There is no place for this, but here we are.

    The Democrats have been stoking up their base along with MSM and this is what happens.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Weed Hopper on Mon Sep 16 08:37:10 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will be a third attempt on Trump?
    By: Weed Hopper to All on Mon Sep 16 2024 05:56 am

    I do think there will be another one. I hope I'm wrong.

    I'm a Trump supporter, but if someone was trying to take out Kamala, I would still decry attempts on her life. There is no place for this, but here we are.

    Was it an attempt? or a random shooting nearby?
    CNN and leftwing media are saying it was another attempt, Fox news has been really careful not to say that until all the facts are in.




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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Weed Hopper on Mon Sep 16 10:21:28 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will be a third attempt on Trump?
    By: Weed Hopper to All on Mon Sep 16 2024 05:56 am

    I do think there will be another one. I hope I'm wrong.

    I'm a Trump supporter, but if someone was trying to take out Kamala, I would still decry attempts on her life. There is no place for this, but here we are.

    The Democrats have been stoking up their base along with MSM and this is what happens.


    i expect more attacks, i expect more riots. people have been brainwashed into derangement.

    my old girlfriend that i was with was a liberal and she would talk about trump every day. she knew almost nothing about how the govt works or any issues. she knew nothing about who she voted for other than their party affiliation. she was shocked when there were riots but i tried to tell her that's who you alligned yourself with.

    Now she is one of those liberals that wont accept that biden was horrible and shouldn't have been president, but still is about trump 24/7.
    those people say they want anybody but trump.
    they think trump is literally hitler.
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  • From Weed Hopper@VERT/LOCALYOC to Denn on Mon Sep 16 13:40:41 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will be a third attempt on Trump?
    By: Denn to Weed Hopper on Mon Sep 16 2024 08:37 am

    Re: Anyone think there will be a third attempt on Trump?
    By: Weed Hopper to All on Mon Sep 16 2024 05:56 am

    I do think there will be another one. I hope I'm wrong.

    I'm a Trump supporter, but if someone was trying to take out Kamala, I would still decry attempts on her life. There is no place for this, but here we are.

    Was it an attempt? or a random shooting nearby?
    CNN and leftwing media are saying it was another attempt, Fox news has bee really careful not to say that until all the facts are in.




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    From what I've read, it looks like an attempt to me. I don't watch Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc.

    I also wouldn't be surprised if the suspect "hanged himself" while in custody.

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  • From Weed Hopper@VERT/LOCALYOC to MRO on Mon Sep 16 13:44:41 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will be a third attempt on Trump?
    By: MRO to Weed Hopper on Mon Sep 16 2024 10:21 am

    Re: Anyone think there will be a third attempt on Trump?
    By: Weed Hopper to All on Mon Sep 16 2024 05:56 am

    I do think there will be another one. I hope I'm wrong.

    I'm a Trump supporter, but if someone was trying to take out Kamala, I wo still decry attempts on her life. There is no place for this, but here we are.

    The Democrats have been stoking up their base along with MSM and this is what happens.


    i expect more attacks, i expect more riots. people have been brainwashed in derangement.

    my old girlfriend that i was with was a liberal and she would talk about tru every day. she knew almost nothing about how the govt works or any issues. she knew nothing about who she voted for other than their party affiliation. she was shocked when there were riots but i tried to tell her that's who you alligned yourself with.

    Now she is one of those liberals that wont accept that biden was horrible an shouldn't have been president, but still is about trump 24/7.
    those people say they want anybody but trump.
    they think trump is literally hitler.

    I also expect more attempts on Trump, riots, and general disorder since this is what they do. I also expect the suspect to be found to have "hanged himself" in his cell.

    I see why she's your old girlfriend. My wife is a Trump supporter, but her parents suffer a major case of TDS, as does one of my sisters. It's unreal how much people hate him.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Weed Hopper on Tue Sep 17 08:04:23 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will be a third attempt on Trump?
    By: Weed Hopper to Denn on Mon Sep 16 2024 01:40 pm

    Was it an attempt? or a random shooting nearby?
    CNN and leftwing media are saying it was another attempt, Fox news has
    bee really careful not to say that until all the facts are in.




    From what I've read, it looks like an attempt to me. I don't watch Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc.

    I also wouldn't be surprised if the suspect "hanged himself" while in custody.

    With sleeping guards and camera's not working probably.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to WEED HOPPER on Tue Sep 17 08:15:00 2024
    I'm a Trump supporter, but if someone was trying to take out Kamala, I would >still decry attempts on her life. There is no place for this, but here we are.

    Indeed. I don't think that people realize the chaos that could unfold if someone is successful at killing Trump, or Harris, or even Biden. It is
    not good for the country, and I believe it is bad karma to wish someone
    dead... and I usually don't believe in bad karma.

    The Democrats have been stoking up their base along with MSM and this is what >happens.

    There is that, yes. However, it has also been said by people who work(ed) closely with Trump that he "likes the crazies" among his supporters and
    that is why he sometimes says and does things to appeal to them.

    There are two problems here that I can think of:

    (1) if you are trying to appeal to crazies that "like you," you will also likely have an opposite but at least equal affect on crazies that don't
    like you.

    (2) crazies are not stable, and one that likes you today may decide to very much not like you in the future.

    That second one may be in play here. The local morning news reported that
    the most-recent shooter claims to be a former Trump supporter who later
    changed his mind and started donating to organizations that work to get Democrats voted in.

    The Pennsylvania shooter was a registered Republican who had also started donating to "vote Democrat" causes.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DENN on Tue Sep 17 08:17:00 2024
    I'm a Trump supporter, but if someone was trying to take out Kamala, I would still decry attempts on her life. There is no place for this, but here we are.

    Was it an attempt? or a random shooting nearby?
    CNN and leftwing media are saying it was another attempt, Fox news has been really careful not to say that until all the facts are in.

    With the first shooting, everyone was upset because other networks were
    really careful to wait for the facts to come in before saying for sure.

    The local morning news reported that this shooter was on stake out at the
    golf course for at least 12 hours. He didn't decide to start shooting
    until Trump was there.


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 17 11:41:22 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Dumas Walker to DENN on Tue Sep 17 2024 08:17 am

    Was it an attempt? or a random shooting nearby?
    CNN and leftwing media are saying it was another attempt, Fox news has
    been really careful not to say that until all the facts are in.

    With the first shooting, everyone was upset because other networks were really careful to wait for the facts to come in before saying for sure.

    Actually they were trying to sweep it under the rug, Remember they were saying that Trump stumbled when clearly that wasn't the case.

    The local morning news reported that this shooter was on stake out at the golf course for at least 12 hours. He didn't decide to start shooting until Trump was there.

    Yep, but that came out after the initial fox reports.

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Weed Hopper on Tue Sep 17 16:26:35 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will be a third attempt on Trump?
    By: Weed Hopper to MRO on Mon Sep 16 2024 01:44 pm

    I see why she's your old girlfriend. My wife is a Trump supporter, but her parents suffer a major case of TDS, as does one of my sisters. It's unreal how much people hate him.

    I don't think most people even know why they hate him... because their friends hate him.

    My son thinks he hates him but he cannot tell me why.

    My daughter on the other hand has a good brain on her shoulders. She prefers Trump to Harris...

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 17 16:29:16 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Dumas Walker to DENN on Tue Sep 17 2024 08:17 am

    The local morning news reported that this shooter was on stake out at the golf course for at least 12 hours. He didn't decide to start shooting
    until Trump was there.

    My question? How did he know Trump was going to be there?

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Bf2k+ on Tue Sep 17 20:21:36 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Dumas Walker to DENN on Tue Sep 17 2024 08:17 am

    My question? How did he know Trump was going to be there?

    Probably a mole in his secret service detail.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Bf2k+ on Wed Sep 18 08:50:42 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will be a third attempt on Trump?
    By: Bf2k+ to Weed Hopper on Tue Sep 17 2024 04:26 pm

    I don't think most people even know why they hate him... because their friends hate him.

    His general attitude sometimes rubs people the wrong way, I think. In particular, there was a time when he mocked a disabled reporter:

    https://tinyurl.com/3kk3sfuy

    Full link: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-s-worst-offense-mocking-di sabled-reporter-poll-finds-n627736

    If he's the kind of person who would mock a disabled person, IMO he's not really a likeable person.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Bf2k+ on Wed Sep 18 11:01:43 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Bf2k+ to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 17 2024 04:29 pm

    The local morning news reported that this shooter was on stake out at the
    golf course for at least 12 hours. He didn't decide to start shooting
    until Trump was there.

    My question? How did he know Trump was going to be there?


    How did he know Trump was going to be golfing at his golf course near his home in Florida on a Sunday?

    GEE, I WONDER?

    I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out that this isn't the first time he waited 12 hours there.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DENN on Wed Sep 18 09:23:00 2024
    The local morning news reported that this shooter was on stake out at
    he
    golf course for at least 12 hours. He didn't decide to start shooting until Trump was there.

    Yep, but that came out after the initial fox reports.

    Probably because it was something they didn't know right away until
    questioning the suspect.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BF2K+ on Wed Sep 18 09:24:00 2024
    The local morning news reported that this shooter was on stake out at the golf course for at least 12 hours. He didn't decide to start shooting until Trump was there.

    My question? How did he know Trump was going to be there?

    That is an interesting question. During the report I referenced, they were
    not sure he did know and, if he did, how.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BF2K+ on Thu Sep 19 08:55:00 2024
    The local morning news reported that this shooter was on stake out at the
    golf course for at least 12 hours. He didn't decide to start shooting until Trump was there.

    My question? How did he know Trump was going to be there?

    That is an interesting question. During the report I referenced, they were not sure he did know and, if he did, how.

    I saw a news trailer this morning, but didn't get to see them discuss it,
    about how Iran hacked Trump's campaign and then shared the info with the
    Biden campaign.

    That tells me:

    (1) Iran wants the Democrats to win
    (2) If they got info about the campaign, they may have also got info about
    his schedule. They could have leaked that anywhere for any crazy to find.

    Could be unrelated but I do wonder.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Thu Sep 19 08:56:00 2024
    I don't think most people even know why they hate him... because their friends hate him.

    His general attitude sometimes rubs people the wrong way, I think. In particular, there was a time when he mocked a disabled reporter:

    If he's the kind of person who would mock a disabled person, IMO he's not really a likeable person.

    I know of at least one person who will never, ever vote for him because of
    this incident. She is the mother of a special-needs child and that
    completely turned her off.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 19 09:17:04 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Thu Sep 19 2024 08:56 am

    If he's the kind of person who would mock a disabled person, IMO he's not
    really a likeable person.

    I know of at least one person who will never, ever vote for him because of this incident. She is the mother of a special-needs child and that completely turned her off.

    One of my friends has a couple of disabilities, and he was turned off to Trump as well. It's also made it hard for me to want to support Trump.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Nightfox on Thu Sep 19 12:29:51 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 19 2024 09:17 am

    One of my friends has a couple of disabilities, and he was turned off to Trump as well. It's also made it hard for me to want to support Trump.

    It comes down to what he says and what he does, often these are two very different things.

    He claims to be "doing this for [us]" but thing things he's done serve mostly to help him and his friends.

    The felony convictions, the civil lawsuits that he's lost, and the multiple indictments don't help.

    Not to mention the things he's been caught saying when he doesn't realize he's being recorded are VASTLY different from what he says to people on the campaign trail.

    Oh, and half of his first-term Cabinet has said they won't vote for him, along with a huge portion of his admnistration's aides.

    All politicians lie. I've never seen any politicians lie as much as Trump, especially about stupid, incredibly trivial things.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Thu Sep 19 13:05:00 2024
    Nightfox wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Thu Sep 19 2024 08:56 am

    If he's the kind of person who would mock a disabled person, IMO he's not
    really a likeable person.

    I know of at least one person who will never, ever vote for him because of this incident. She is the mother of a special-needs child and that completely turned her off.

    One of my friends has a couple of disabilities, and he was turned off
    to Trump as well. It's also made it hard for me to want to support
    Trump.

    Does anyone need a list of things which make it hard to support Harris?

    Followup question: Is there a line number limit on how long a message
    can be that's posted to DoveNet? ;-)



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Thu Sep 19 12:40:42 2024
    Re: Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Thu Sep 19 2024 01:05 pm

    One of my friends has a couple of disabilities, and he was turned off to
    Trump as well. It's also made it hard for me to want to support Trump.

    Does anyone need a list of things which make it hard to support Harris?

    Followup question: Is there a line number limit on how long a message can be that's posted to DoveNet? ;-)

    Sure, there are things that are hard to support about both candidates. I'm not sure I even want to vote if they are our options.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Fri Sep 20 10:18:00 2024
    If he's the kind of person who would mock a disabled person, IMO he's not
    really a likeable person.

    I know of at least one person who will never, ever vote for him because of
    this incident. She is the mother of a special-needs child and that completely turned her off.

    One of my friends has a couple of disabilities, and he was turned off to Trump
    as well. It's also made it hard for me to want to support Trump.

    I guess it depends on how you take it. At the time, I took it as Trump
    being hard on that particular person and not as a blanket implication of disabled persons as a whole. However, I can easily see where others would
    take it that way, and I didn't think it was appropriate.

    When people say he "doesn't act 'Presidential,'" while they usually cannot define what that really means I can agree that is one time where he
    definately didn't act so. Some of his attacks on John McCain were also
    good examples of inappropriate, "un-Presidential" responses.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Fri Sep 20 10:46:00 2024
    Not to mention the things he's been caught saying when he doesn't realize he's
    being recorded are VASTLY different from what he says to people on the campaig
    trail.

    There are some things he says when he knows cameras are on that he
    shouldn't. During the harrassment trial, and about the defendent, is one instance that springs to mind. Instead of keeping his mouth shut, he just
    kept giving them more reasons to come after him again if they want.

    Oh, and half of his first-term Cabinet has said they won't vote for him, along
    with a huge portion of his admnistration's aides.

    Kamala's office saw a large amount of turnover during her time as VP, so I would wonder what those former aides think of possibly voting for her.
    Most reports are that she was not good to work for and, like Trump, had a tendency to blame her issues on others (although she is apparently smart
    enough to only do so behind closed doors).

    All politicians lie. I've never seen any politicians lie as much as Trump, especially about stupid, incredibly trivial things.

    I think it is the "stupid, incredibly trivial things" that just make his
    lies easier to spot. With other politicians, it is often things we'd have
    to look up to verify and they often get missed.


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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dumas Walker on Fri Sep 20 17:01:24 2024
    On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:18:00 -0500, you wrote:

    I guess it depends on how you take it. At the time, I took it as Trump being hard on that particular person and not as a blanket implication of disabled persons as a whole. However, I can easily see where others would take it that way, and I didn't think it was appropriate.

    While it is (much moreso now), and definitely was inappropriate.. I'd like to know how many people arguing about this as a reason not to vote for him, have ever called a friend of theirs a retard, or a short bus riding window licker, or slow, etc. Back in the 80s-90s you heard that crap every day, as it was very common.

    I think it has to do with people's skin getting much thinner over the years. People's feelings get hurt entirely too easily nowadays.

    When people say he "doesn't act 'Presidential,'" while they usually cannot define what that really means I can agree that is one time where he definately didn't act so. Some of his attacks on John McCain were also good examples of inappropriate, "un-Presidential" responses.

    He wasn't ever, nor wanted to be groomed to be president. He has always been a business owner and basically ran the country the same way - which was /very/ successful, if I might add. It was definitely a nice break from the previous what, 20 years of Democrat presidents?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Accession on Fri Sep 20 16:41:59 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Accession to Dumas Walker on Fri Sep 20 2024 05:01 pm

    I guess it depends on how you take it. At the time, I took it as Trump
    being hard on that particular person and not as a blanket implication of
    disabled persons as a whole. However, I can easily see where others
    would take it that way, and I didn't think it was appropriate.

    While it is (much moreso now), and definitely was inappropriate.. I'd like to know how many people arguing about this as a reason not to vote for him, have ever called a friend of theirs a retard, or a short bus riding window licker, or slow, etc. Back in the 80s-90s you heard that crap every day, as it was very common.

    I think it has to do with people's skin getting much thinner over the years. People's feelings get hurt entirely too easily nowadays.

    I can't say I remember if I've ever called someone that, but generally I avoid using that word. And even so, and even if peoples' skin is thinner these days, I don't think that justifies mocking a disabled person, or makes it appropriate in any way. IMO it's a piece of shit thing to do, and doesn't make me feel good about voting for him.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Fri Sep 20 21:45:20 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Nightfox to Accession on Fri Sep 20 2024 04:41 pm

    I guess it depends on how you take it. At the time, I took it as
    Trump being hard on that particular person and not as a blanket
    implication of disabled persons as a whole. However, I can easily
    see where others would take it that way, and I didn't think it was
    appropriate.

    While it is (much moreso now), and definitely was inappropriate..
    I'd like to know how many people arguing about this as a reason not
    to vote for him, have ever called a friend of theirs a retard, or a
    short bus riding window licker, or slow, etc. Back in the 80s-90s
    you heard that crap every day, as it was very common.

    I think it has to do with people's skin getting much thinner over
    the
    years. People's feelings get hurt entirely too easily nowadays.

    I can't say I remember if I've ever called someone that, but generally I avoid using that word. And even so, and even if peoples' skin is thinner these days, I don't think that justifies mocking a disabled person, or makes it appropriate in any way. IMO it's a piece of shit thing to do, and doesn't make me feel good about voting for him.

    I guess no ones perfect, you should hear the stories Kamala staffers tell about how she treats them.
    Also Hillary has done far worse.

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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Denn on Sat Sep 21 01:00:17 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Denn to Bf2k+ on Tue Sep 17 2024 08:21 pm

    My question? How did he know Trump was going to be there?

    Probably a mole in his secret service detail.

    Ding! Ding! Ding!

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ACCESSION on Sat Sep 21 10:02:00 2024
    I guess it depends on how you take it. At the time, I took it as Trump being hard on that particular person and not as a blanket implication of disabled persons as a whole. However, I can easily see where others woul
    take it that way, and I didn't think it was appropriate.

    While it is (much moreso now), and definitely was inappropriate.. I'd like to know how many people arguing about this as a reason not to vote for him, have ever called a friend of theirs a retard, or a short bus riding window licker, or slow, etc. Back in the 80s-90s you heard that crap every day, as it was ver
    common.

    Yes, it was indeed. I suspect that any folks my age acting appalled about
    it now used to say it a lot then.

    I think it has to do with people's skin getting much thinner over the years. People's feelings get hurt entirely too easily nowadays.

    Indeed. Part of it is probably the way they are raised, but I also think
    part of it is how much exposure (and at how young) people have to social
    media these days. That opens a whole new door to not only information but
    also to a place to have more hurt feelings.

    When people say he "doesn't act 'Presidential,'" while they usually canno
    define what that really means I can agree that is one time where he definately didn't act so. Some of his attacks on John McCain were also good examples of inappropriate, "un-Presidential" responses.

    He wasn't ever, nor wanted to be groomed to be president. He has always been a
    business owner and basically ran the country the same way - which was /very/ successful, if I might add. It was definitely a nice break from the previous what, 20 years of Democrat presidents?

    I don't think people realize how some politicians are groomed for that. I remember reading years ago that the Kennedys were grooming their eldest for
    an eventual Presidential run. He died, so they turned their focus on John.
    He had already spent some time not being groomed which made things a little more difficult.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 22 07:10:57 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Dumas Walker to ACCESSION on Sat Sep 21 2024 10:02 am

    I guess it depends on how you take it. At the time, I took it as Trump being hard on that particular person and not as a blanket implication of disabled persons as a whole. However, I can easily see where others woul
    take it that way, and I didn't think it was appropriate.

    While it is (much moreso now), and definitely was inappropriate.. I'd like to know how many people arguing about this as a reason not to vote for him, have ever called a friend of theirs a retard, or a short bus riding window licker, or slow, etc. Back in the 80s-90s you heard that crap every day, as it was ver
    common.

    Yes, it was indeed. I suspect that any folks my age acting appalled about it now used to say it a lot then.


    you can't say 'that is retarded' and stuff like that because people pretend to be offended. it was used a lot from the 70s-80s when i was growing up.

    now retarded people are referred to as "intellectual disability".
    but if we used that in a disparaging way, those words would be banned as well.

    definately didn't act so. Some of his attacks on John McCain were also good examples of inappropriate, "un-Presidential" responses.

    He wasn't ever, nor wanted to be groomed to be president. He has always been a
    business owner and basically ran the country the same way - which was /very/ successful, if I might add. It was definitely a nice break from the previous what, 20 years of Democrat presidents?

    I don't think people realize how some politicians are groomed for that. I remember reading years ago that the Kennedys were grooming their eldest for an eventual Presidential run. He died, so they turned their focus on John.

    i still remember oprah talking to trump trying to get him to be president.
    that was in the late 80s when all the democrats loved trump, loved his money and he was godfather to a lot of their children.

    an eventual Presidential run. He died, so they turned their focus on John. He had already spent some time not being groomed which made things a little more difficult.

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Nightfox on Sun Sep 22 20:02:02 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 19 2024 09:17 am

    One of my friends has a couple of disabilities, and he was turned off to Trump as well. It's also made it hard for me to want to support Trump.

    I have an autistic grandson who lives here with me and my wife. He is thirteen and a real PITA. However, it isn't hard for me to support Trump.

    My wife loves Trump... I don't really like him as a person, but then I don't vote for the person. I vote for the platform.

    I prefer the conservative platform to the liberal platform. And I think that Kamala is a complete moron...

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Gamgee on Sun Sep 22 20:03:49 2024
    Re: Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Thu Sep 19 2024 01:05 pm

    Does anyone need a list of things which make it hard to support Harris?

    Other than she is a moron? Nope.

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Accession on Sun Sep 22 20:05:08 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Accession to Dumas Walker on Fri Sep 20 2024 05:01 pm

    I think it has to do with people's skin getting much thinner over the years. People's feelings get hurt entirely too easily nowadays.

    Exactly!!!

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Bf2k+ on Mon Sep 23 04:44:57 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Bf2k+ to Accession on Sun Sep 22 2024 08:05 pm

    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Accession to Dumas Walker on Fri Sep 20 2024 05:01 pm

    I think it has to do with people's skin getting much thinner over the years. People's feelings get hurt entirely too easily nowadays.

    Exactly!!!

    i really do not think they get their feelings hurt; I think they became conditioned to act against people that are different from them. they are out
    to locate enemies.

    I see it a lot with 30yrs and under. They think something's always up. they are always wondering if someone is a trump supporter or anti what they are for.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Mon Sep 23 09:03:00 2024
    Yes, it was indeed. I suspect that any folks my age acting appalled about it now used to say it a lot then.

    you can't say 'that is retarded' and stuff like that because people pretend to
    be offended. it was used a lot from the 70s-80s when i was growing up.

    Even more frequent around here was the replacing of the "re" with another
    word or partial word.

    i still remember oprah talking to trump trying to get him to be president. that was in the late 80s when all the democrats loved trump, loved his money and he was godfather to a lot of their children.

    Yeah, they turned on him quick when he ran as a Republican and didn't make
    nice with their chosen one, Hillary.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Bf2k+ on Mon Sep 23 09:58:22 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Bf2k+ to Nightfox on Sun Sep 22 2024 08:02 pm

    My wife loves Trump... I don't really like him as a person, but then I don't vote for the person. I vote for the platform.

    I prefer the conservative platform to the liberal platform. And I think that Kamala is a complete moron...

    You think she's a moron, but you also say you don't vote for the person, you vote for the platform..?

    Nightfox

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  • From W5jsn@VERT/TUCUMCAR to Bf2k+ on Mon Sep 23 09:08:10 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Bf2k+ to Nightfox on Sun Sep 22 2024 20:02:02

    I also have an autistic man, my son, living with me. I know the word "retarded" gets a terrible wrap, but it seems to be a clinical word for the problem with my son. He is a bit slow and that is what retarded means (like retarding the timing on your older car). I don't fault mature people for using what was a common decent term in the past. It was not derogatory. I remember that the ARC organization's name was an acronym for "Association of Retarded Citizens". No stigma until jerks started saying "retard" or just "'tard" to people who, like my son, doesn't have capacity to understand that he is different from others.

    I suppose people will have a sorts of reasons to vote for particular people, but I think "using the right words" is a pretty shallow criteria for a person tasked with lots of authority and power. "Pretty" or flattering speech is usually a sign that someone is trying to manipulate you, as Harris is trying to flatter votes away from a proven business leader and a former government executive who runs on his record. Kamala whispers "sweet nothings" in so many ears and people seem to like that, as if they were working with a whore as opposed to a potential president. I am not looking for a good lay, I am looking for a president.

    For all his trash talking, Trump is a man who is offering to sacrifice (again) a successful career to take on a political war to solve systemic problems that the crony government (swamp) profitably ignores. He points out that Kamala and Biden could have worked to tackle problems for four years that she now says "this is what I will do".

    Those are lines every "leader" for decades has spewed to pander for votes and on which few have ever delivered - they get their office, enrich their friends, punish their enemies, and ignore the people who voted for them. Kamala is playing the same old game of saying what more voters want to hear (using "acceptable" words) and her record is to do nothing other than support her friends and benefactors and hide Biden. Harris is just another "good ol' politician" that just happens to be a multy-culty woman (another way to get a few more votes from low-infomation voters).

    It is depressing to see the criteria people use to choose their leaders.

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Nightfox on Mon Sep 23 18:05:28 2024
    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 14:58:22 -0700, you wrote:

    I prefer the conservative platform to the liberal platform. And
    Bf? I think that Kamala is a complete moron...

    You think she's a moron, but you also say you don't vote for the
    person, you vote for the platform..?

    To be fair, he said he preferred the conservative platform to the liberal platform /before/ stating any extended thoughts.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tue Sep 24 08:59:00 2024
    I see it a lot with 30yrs and under. They think something's always up. they >are always wondering if someone is a trump supporter or anti what they are for.

    There were some of those around when I was younger, too, but I think folks getting most/all of their opinions from social media has made it a whole
    lot worse.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to W5JSN on Tue Sep 24 09:04:00 2024
    For all his trash talking, Trump is a man who is offering to sacrifice (again)
    a successful career to take on a political war to solve systemic problems that
    the crony government (swamp) profitably ignores. He points out that Kamala and
    Biden could have worked to tackle problems for four years that she now says "this is what I will do".

    I have said for years and years that the Democrats keep certain issues in
    their back pockets... the poor, abortion, etc... and intentionally don't do anything to really fix them so that they can pull them out every four years
    and claim "now is the time."

    Then, once elected, they will blame "Congress" or someone else for these
    things not getting done... that is if they don't totally ignore them.

    They don't want to fix the problems because then they have nothing to run
    on.


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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Nightfox on Tue Sep 24 18:40:33 2024
    Re: Anyone think there will b
    By: Nightfox to Bf2k+ on Mon Sep 23 2024 09:58 am

    You think she's a moron, but you also say you don't vote for the person, you vote for the platform..?

    I don't think she's a moron... I KNOW she's a moron.

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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to MRO on Sun Sep 29 05:26:00 2024
    I guess it depends on how you take it. At the time, I took it a Trump being hard on that particular person and not as a blanket implication of disabled persons as a whole. However, I can easi see where others woul
    take it that way, and I didn't think it was appropriate.

    As a disabled person, I see no possible interpretation of that moment *other* than a blanket implication of disabled people as a whole.

    While it is (much moreso now), and definitely was inappropriate.. I'd to know how many people arguing about this as a reason not to vote fo him, have ever called a friend of theirs a ******, or [REDACTED], MR> > > etc. Back in the 80s-90s you heard that crap
    day, as it was very common.

    Yes, it was indeed. I suspect that any folks my age acting appalled ab it now used to say it a lot then.


    you can't say 'that is ********' and stuff like that because people prete MR> be offended. it was used a lot from the 70s-80s when i was growing up.

    No pretending is necessary; that word *is* inherently deeply offensive. It's almost like we've moved on as a society.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to halian on Sun Sep 29 08:40:00 2024
    halian wrote to MRO <=-

    While it is (much moreso now), and definitely was inappropriate.. I'd to know how many people arguing about this as a reason not to vote fo him, have ever called a friend of theirs a ******, or [REDACTED],

    etc. Back in the 80s-90s you heard that crap
    day, as it was very common.

    Yes, it was indeed. I suspect that any folks my age acting appalled ab it now used to say it a lot then.

    you can't say 'that is ********' and stuff like that because people prete be offended. it was used a lot from the 70s-80s when i was growing up.

    No pretending is necessary; that word *is* inherently deeply offensive. It's almost like we've moved on as a society.

    Well, that's because we *have* (moved on). Just like we did in the 30
    years before the discussion above; and like we will have done 30 years
    from now. It's normal. It's change. It's what happens over time.



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