• Re: oh man joe biden

    From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Jul 6 14:46:18 2024
    Re: Re: oh man joe biden
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Jul 06 2024 09:48 am

    sidelined because of trump. They weren't even doing their duties. There were times when i would read the minutes from their meetings and they did literally nothing but go on lunch.

    My recollection is they got more done than the current MAGA congress.


    I havent paid attention to the recent congress. what i did pay attention to was what i mentioned during that time period. they intentionally did nothing other than schedule lunch.

    If you substitute "MAGA Republicans" for "democrat party" and "Biden" for "trump" in your statement above, you'd have a good description of the last four years. The difference being that, under Biden, there will be a bill for something the MAGAs supposedly don't like so they will say "we cannot pass 'that' unless you add 'this'."


    hey lets not normalize 'magas' or 'maga republicans'. it's childish namecalling that really just pushes us further to a civil war.

    Politicians have always been bad, but this latest AOC/MTG crop his *especially* bad. Voters for both parties need to flush the toilet and start over.


    we need to gut the entire system. we need to limit terms. we need to
    regulate what politicans can do. they shouldn't be bought by big pharma. Their financial records need to be routinely scrutanized. people in our upper govt go from being 'poor' to multi millionares and the salary doesn't add up.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Jul 6 14:49:36 2024
    Re: Re: oh man joe biden
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Jul 06 2024 09:43 am

    whatever comes.

    It really isn't that complicated. Listening to his lawyer agree, in court, that a President cannot be prosecuted for even killing a political
    opponent, so long as Congress does not impeach him, was not misinformation repeated elsewhere. The dumbass did it. I thought for sure Trump would speak out or fire the guy, but he went along with it. The lawyer who did that wasn't the one fired, it was the dude he kept.

    To agree to such a situation, under oath, in past would have completely unraveled their defense. To argue such nonsense is not their job.

    but that is a fact due to our system, isn't it?
    there's a lot of loopholes. presidents kill people for political reasons routinely.

    It used to and still should. If we've let the country get to that point, we've really screwed up.

    Laws never mattered if you were rich and powerful. Laws are for the little people. Laws are routinely broken and nothing happens if there's no follow through.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Jul 6 14:55:26 2024
    Re: Re: oh man joe biden
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Jul 06 2024 09:46 am


    Furthermore, there were crooked mail carriers who were selling
    stacks of ballots.

    That I did not hear.


    I saw a video of it, i'm not sure if it was my home state but wouldn't be surprised. also there's weird stuff like this

    https://www.whsv.com/content/news/Pendleton-County-mail-carrier-charged-with-altering-absentee-ballot-requests-570777221.html

    or cases of postal workers throwing out ballots.

    The post office has been hiring anybody with a pulse since like 2018. They dont pay well and don't have good benefits. These arent the 'regular' postal carriers you think of. they have carrier assistants who help eat up what would be 600+ million of dollars of overtime.

    I was told that they don't hire people with felonies but they used to [when they did i heard they performed well], but anything else goes. No exam, no drug test or medical exam.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Mon Jul 8 19:17:55 2024
    Re: Re: oh man joe biden
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Jul 06 2024 09:46 am

    At my workplace people received a lot of mail in ballots from
    people who did not live at their houses. There were several people that had that issue.

    I have heard that it happened elsewhere (New York state, apparently California, and now apparently Wisconsin), but it didn't happen that way here.

    Furthermore, there were crooked mail carriers who were selling
    stacks of ballots.



    oh i got my mail in ballot pack today. ripped it up. I'm supposed to be unregistered for voting.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tue Jul 9 08:30:00 2024
    oh i got my mail in ballot pack today. ripped it up. I'm supposed to be unregistered for voting.

    So your state is still allowing mail-in for non-absentees. Interesting.
    That sounds shady.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tue Jul 9 18:02:38 2024
    Re: Re: oh man joe biden
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Jul 09 2024 08:30 am

    oh i got my mail in ballot pack today. ripped it up. I'm supposed to be unregistered for voting.

    So your state is still allowing mail-in for non-absentees. Interesting. That sounds shady.



    they don't have to question the reason for it.

    "Voting by Absentee Ballot
    Under Wisconsin law, voters do not need a reason or excuse, such as being out of town on Election Day, to vote absentee. Any voter who prefers to vote by absentee ballot may request one.

    If you are not already registered, you will need to register to vote before an absentee ballot can be sent to you. A new voter registration application is required any time you move (even minor changes such as apartment units), change your name, or if you have not voted in the past four years.

    Photo ID Required
    Unless you are a military voter, permanently overseas, or are indefinitely confined, you must provide the Election Commission with a copy of your photo ID to keep on file. If you are not sure if you have an ID on file already, feel free to contact us. The address on the ID does not need to be current. For a list of acceptable photo IDs, visit BringIt Wisconsin.

    Voters who are indefinitely confined (meaning they have difficulty getting to the polls due to age, illness, infirmity, or disability) may request a ballot be sent to them for every election by checking the box on the application. Indefinitely confined voters are not required to provide photo ID.

    Deadline
    Applications for absentee ballots must be received no later than 5:00 p.m. on the Thursday before the election. "
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wed Jul 10 07:43:00 2024
    oh i got my mail in ballot pack today. ripped it up. I'm supposed to be unregistered for voting.

    So your state is still allowing mail-in for non-absentees. Interesting. That sounds shady.

    they don't have to question the reason for it.

    "Voting by Absentee Ballot
    Under Wisconsin law, voters do not need a reason or excuse, such as being out of town on Election Day, to vote absentee. Any voter who prefers to vote by absentee ballot may request one.

    That is shady, but apparently legal. They should question it, and they shouldn't just send it to you unrequested.


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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dumas Walker on Wed Jul 10 17:22:22 2024
    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 12:43:00 -0500, you wrote:

    "Voting by Absentee Ballot Under Wisconsin law, voters do not need
    a reason or excuse, such as being out of town on Election Day, to
    vote absentee. Any voter who prefers to vote by absentee ballot
    may request one.

    That is shady, but apparently legal. They should question it, and
    they shouldn't just send it to you unrequested.

    It does say above "may request one," which would make it somewhat normal. However, if they're just sending them out to anyone and everyone (I don't believe my wife or I have ever gotten one, and we live in Wisconsin also).

    I wonder if the people who do get them without requesting them are on some sort of mailing list through the government.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dumas Walker on Wed Jul 10 18:53:14 2024
    Re: Re: oh man joe biden
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Jul 10 2024 07:43 am

    "Voting by Absentee Ballot
    Under Wisconsin law, voters do not need a reason or excuse, such as being
    out of town on Election Day, to vote absentee. Any voter who prefers to
    vote by absentee ballot may request one.

    That is shady, but apparently legal. They should question it, and they shouldn't just send it to you unrequested.

    Wisconsin doesn't send a ballot unrequested. SOMEONE requested it, you just need to enter your full name and birthdate.

    If someone else requests it on your behalf, without your permission, that's a violation of state laws (impersonating a registered elector).

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Wed Jul 10 20:37:12 2024
    Re: Re: oh man joe biden
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Jul 10 2024 07:43 am


    That is shady, but apparently legal. They should question it, and they shouldn't just send it to you unrequested.


    i got a big packet and it said 'your home ballot' or some shit like that.
    i tossed it out. I revoked my voter registration previously, too.

    I was sick of jury duty shit.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Wed Jul 10 20:40:36 2024
    Re: oh man joe biden
    By: Accession to Dumas Walker on Wed Jul 10 2024 05:22 pm

    It does say above "may request one," which would make it somewhat normal. However, if they're just sending them out to anyone and everyone (I don't believe my wife or I have ever gotten one, and we live in Wisconsin also).

    when i voted by absentee i went online and entered my info and then uploaded my drivers license. i'm not sure what was in that packet because i ripped it in half and tossed it. maybe it was a democrat scam with shit inside telling me who to vote for. I got stuff like that before. lists of people on the ballot and who i should vote for.
    I wonder if the people who do get them without requesting them are on some sort of mailing list through the government.

    it could be that disabled list or people are just flagging it.
    in my old home city people voted under me. I don't trust any of that shit.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Thu Jul 11 10:03:00 2024
    Wisconsin doesn't send a ballot unrequested. SOMEONE requested it, you just need to enter your full name and birthdate.

    If someone else requests it on your behalf, without your permission, that's a violation of state laws (impersonating a registered elector).

    So it sounds like someone requested it as "mro" and it went to mro's real address instead of the address of the person who requested it. So it is
    not the government doing something shady, but someone who is violating your state laws.

    That is no doubt something that could happen here or in any state that
    allows absentee voting. :(


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thu Jul 11 10:26:00 2024
    That is shady, but apparently legal. They should question it, and they shouldn't just send it to you unrequested.

    i got a big packet and it said 'your home ballot' or some shit like that.
    i tossed it out. I revoked my voter registration previously, too.

    I was sick of jury duty shit.

    I am not sure how it works in Wisconsin but here if you file a state tax return, iirc have a driver's license, and several other things non-voting related, you can still get jury duty.

    About the only way to avoid it is by having no form of state-issued ID or
    any contact with state government where your address would be put on
    record... so no unemployment insurance, interaction with child support, a
    job that reports your income, etc.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thu Jul 11 11:18:00 2024
    Re: Re: oh man joe biden
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Thu Jul 11 2024 10:26 am

    I am not sure how it works in Wisconsin but here if you file a state tax return, iirc have a driver's license, and several other things non-voting related, you can still get jury duty.

    About the only way to avoid it is by having no form of state-issued ID or any contact with state government where your address would be put on record... so no unemployment insurance, interaction with child support, a job that reports your income, etc.

    in wisconsin they say they use a list from the dmv; I am one a list at the dmv so they don't share my info. i've also heard that other sources use voter registration lists. It makes sense that they would use registered voter info because we are required to keep that information current and it's considered a reliable list of people's names and addresses. It's also public record.

    When i moved and registered in my new area, a month later i got jury duty.
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