• Re: superhero shit

    From anthk@VERT to All on Sun Nov 12 21:20:11 2023
    On 2023-09-11, Tracker1 <TRN!Tracker1@vert.synchro.net> wrote:

    Re: superhero shit
    By: Ewing to Nightfox on Sat Sep 02 2023 08:09:07

    They just feel all the same to me. Every other movie I've watched in the Marvel category of late I've ended up tuning out and doing something else
    - just leaving it on in the background.

    They follow a very similar formula arch over the movies... the characters are slightly different but the pacing is much the same, and there's no real tention or risk in any of it. If they did something different, leave the ending with a bad guy winning, or a character that actually grows, or someone of significance actually dying (I don't think Iron Man in infinity war quite counts since it's more of a one off that people knew was coming).

    I've had Disney+ since it launched here in 2019 but just cancelled my subscription as I haven't seen anything of note released for a while that's not from Marvel.

    You can't get Hulu without Disney+, but may be dropping that since we aren't using the Live TV feeds as much lately.


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    Also, main characters are like a copycat of each others with almost no background
    of the comics. I've got bored pretty fast.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to anthk on Mon Nov 13 01:29:00 2023
    anthk wrote to All <=-

    tention or risk in any of it. If they did something different, leave
    the ending with a bad guy winning, or a character that actually grows,

    That's a good point, some of the comics deal with people unprepared for
    power being thrust upon them and you end up with college kids and high
    school kids with unique powers forced to figure out what to do with
    them/how to use them. They don't really delve into that, except a bit
    with Spiderman.



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  • From anthk@VERT to All on Mon Nov 13 04:06:58 2023
    On 2023-09-05, Arelor <PALANTIR!Arelor@vert.synchro.net> wrote:

    Re: Re: superhero shit
    By: hollowone to Arelor on Tue Sep 05 2023 07:16 am

    I'd not say West as whole. I'd rather limit it to "Hollywood blockbusters".
    I dunno. Most time I come across something modern that is still good, it is Asian.

    There are some outstanding exceptions, but I am not optimistic about our industry.

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    Nah, the problem lies on the Spaniard. Santiago Segura did a parody on
    the rancid Francoist Spaniard (ancient and tacky old fart, imagine
    a mix between Trump and Leisure Suit Larry from Sierra), and
    here the right wing took that idiot as a *model*.

    As if they American right wingers took Biff Tannen from BTTF as
    their cool guy. Madness? That's Spain.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to anthk on Mon Nov 13 07:38:27 2023
    Re: Re: superhero shit
    By: anthk to All on Mon Nov 13 2023 09:06 am

    the rancid Francoist Spaniard (ancient and tacky old fart, imagine
    a mix between Trump and Leisure Suit Larry from Sierra), and
    here the right wing took that idiot as a *model*.

    so is that a bad thing? because it sounds pretty awesome.

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  • From anthk@VERT to All on Mon Nov 13 20:07:06 2023
    On 2023-11-13, MRO <BBSESINF!MRO@vert.synchro.net> wrote:

    Re: Re: superhero shit
    By: anthk to All on Mon Nov 13 2023 09:06 am

    the rancid Francoist Spaniard (ancient and tacky old fart, imagine
    a mix between Trump and Leisure Suit Larry from Sierra), and
    here the right wing took that idiot as a *model*.

    so is that a bad thing? because it sounds pretty awesome.

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    'Awesome' if you tought that your social behaving standards
    are the polar opposite of being an educated gentleman with manners.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to anthk on Tue Nov 14 04:33:04 2023
    Re: Re: superhero shit
    By: anthk to All on Tue Nov 14 2023 01:07 am

    so is that a bad thing? because it sounds pretty awesome.

    'Awesome' if you tought that your social behaving standards
    are the polar opposite of being an educated gentleman with manners.

    isn't that all subjective?

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  • From hollowone@VERT/BEERS20 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Nov 16 07:59:00 2023
    That's a good point, some of the comics deal with people unprepared for power being thrust upon them and you end up with college kids and high school kids with unique powers forced to figure out what to do with them/how to use them. They don't really delve into that, except a bit
    with Spiderman.

    Nolan's Batman was touching that a bit, but from totally different angle.

    I think X-men and Wolverine is the only example I know from the past that was dealing with lack of readiness.

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to MRO on Tue Nov 28 09:19:27 2023
    It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.

    Zombie movies are great. Army of the Dead was great, then the prequel Army of Thieves, great. I could watch Mila Jovovich forever.

    and now they are trying to milk starwars.

    What's the common denominator with hero films and Star Wars? Disney. Talk about a company that has completely lost touch with their founder's vision. Even the new movie Wish is just a pile of uncreative nonsense that still manages to "reimagine" old Disney tropes into more of the same ole same ole. I get the whole inclusivity movement, but I feel like it's causing some issues at the house of mouse.

    But don't get me wrong, I don't think I'll ever be tired of superhero stuff, if my random comic collection is any indicator, I'll never be done with the superhero genre. Across the Spiderverse (which went managed to go full inclusivity, but wasn't shitty, because you cared about the characters), and the newest TMNT were both amazing! They can milk a genre for as much as they want, as long as they take risks and hire good writers, I'll never be tired.

    With the exception of Andor (amazing compared to other just about anything else Star Wars related last year), Star Wars needs help. Dave Filony (sp?) was hired as CCO for Star Wars stuff at Disney. He won't have his hand on everything, but at least he can pull the plug if shit goes off the rails. Gotta get Katherine (I think that's her) out of the drivers seat. That b-word knows nothing about making movies.

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  • From anthk@VERT to All on Tue Dec 5 04:59:07 2023
    On 2023-11-14, MRO <BBSESINF!MRO@vert.synchro.net> wrote:

    Re: Re: superhero shit
    By: anthk to All on Tue Nov 14 2023 01:07 am

    so is that a bad thing? because it sounds pretty awesome.

    'Awesome' if you tought that your social behaving standards
    are the polar opposite of being an educated gentleman with manners.

    isn't that all subjective?

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    Torrente it's obviously a nasty satire about the 'idiotic, rancid, old-fasioned, tacky and misoginyst Spaniard' everyone mental
    and socially sane got repressed in his 'soul' because of the social
    context adminiring the 'Spaniard macho'.

    The -global- social trait it's called "franquismo sociológico",
    (sociological Francoism);
    that's it, the Francoist's social traits surpassed the end of the
    Francoism regime and they affected several generations of
    democracy-born people because of the adoctrination of the previous
    generations.

    That trait affected men and women equally even under Democracy.
    Maybe people woudn't be as religious, (Spain it's just Catholic in
    name, no one goes there to the church except on weddings and inside
    a coffin), but people over 45 got lots of similar bullshit
    such as horoscopes.
    also, there's a big lack of critical thinking
    in lots of social and political news.

    Thus, it's not a figure to be admired, but to avoid as much as possible.
    He is not a good guy at all. He is macho-figure embracing fascist, hypocrite illegal drug abuser, (because Francoism forbid illegal drugs, yet he
    snorted cocaine...), backstabber, borderline pedophile, mysoginist,
    xenophobe up to the point of physically attacking non-Spaniards/non-whites...

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to anthk on Tue Dec 5 08:44:33 2023
    Re: Re: superhero shit
    By: anthk to All on Tue Dec 05 2023 04:59 am

    'Awesome' if you tought that your social behaving standards
    are the polar opposite of being an educated gentleman with manners.

    isn't that all subjective?

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    Torrente it's obviously a nasty satire about the 'idiotic, rancid, old-fasioned, tacky and misoginyst Spaniard' everyone mental
    and socially sane got repressed in his 'soul' because of the social
    context adminiring the 'Spaniard macho'.

    The -global- social trait it's called "franquismo sociol¡gico",


    did you reply with chatgpt?

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  • From Alonzo@VERT/UNMARKED to anthk on Thu Dec 14 07:32:44 2023
    Re: Re: superhero shit
    By: anthk to All on Tue Nov 14 2023 01:07 am

    A cross between Trump and Leisure Suit Larry seems like a pretty awesome idea to me too.

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