• Where do I get ntvdmx64

    From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to All on Wed Jun 5 12:32:47 2024
    Where do I get this with installer and instructions on how to use it with synchronet to run 16 bit door games over a s bbs installed on a 64 bit computer running windows 10. I found some references to it on github but could not figure out how to install it.myself , yesI was expecting an installer. Lol. I also have dos box and dosbox x. I understand how to run those for the local experience, but want to run them over the bbs for others to enjoy. Is this possible? Could I execute a door with something in sbbscfg like dosbox ..\xtrn\teos\teos %# if any one has succeeded I would love to see examples. Thank you for your reply.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Rixter on Wed Jun 5 13:18:28 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Rixter to All on Wed Jun 05 2024 12:32 pm

    Where do I get this with installer and instructions on how to use it with synchronet to run 16 bit door games over a s bbs installed on a 64 bit computer running windows 10. I found some references to it on github but could not figure out how to install it.myself

    The installer is packaged and released here: https://mendelson.org/ntvdmx64.html

    You want to download/use the "CCPU verson".

    , yesI was expecting an
    installer. Lol. I also have dos box and dosbox x. I understand how to run those for the local experience, but want to run them over the bbs for others to enjoy. Is this possible?

    No, dosbox and its forks are not useful for running BBS doorgames.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Rixter on Wed Jun 5 13:12:22 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Rixter to All on Wed Jun 05 2024 12:32 pm

    Where do I get this with installer and instructions on how to use it with

    The Windows FAQ page on the Synchronet wiki has a mention of it: https://wiki.synchro.net/faq:win

    ntvdm64 is here:
    https://mendelson.org/ntvdmx64.html

    It sounds like once you install ntvdm64, running DOS doors should run on 64-bit Windows.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Wed Jun 5 22:21:04 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Digital Man to Rixter on Wed Jun 05 2024 01:18 pm


    No, dosbox and its forks are not useful for running BBS doorgames.

    well 'bbs dosbox' works pretty well. i've used it with some troublesome doorgames, too.

    file transfers suck usually.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Thu Jun 6 10:55:49 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Jun 05 2024 10:21 pm

    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Digital Man to Rixter on Wed Jun 05 2024 01:18 pm


    No, dosbox and its forks are not useful for running BBS doorgames.

    well 'bbs dosbox' works pretty well. i've used it with some troublesome doorgames, too.

    Cool. Care to provide a 'how-to' page for sysops that want to replicate that success?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Thu Jun 6 18:25:30 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Jun 06 2024 10:55 am


    well 'bbs dosbox' works pretty well. i've used it with some troublesome doorgames, too.

    Cool. Care to provide a 'how-to' page for sysops that want to replicate that success?

    People have been doing it, maybe since 2004 or 2006.

    Deuce had that bbs dosbox page and i zipped it and uploaded it to vert.
    I thought the page was down but it's back up.
    https://dosbox.bbsdev.net/

    Looks like I made the archive in 2010
    https://i.imgur.com/jBr8i6u.png

    I wouldn't recommend running a bbs on it if you want decent file transfers. With my experience there were problems with xfers.
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  • From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to Digital Man on Thu Jun 6 19:49:44 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Rixter to All on Wed Jun 05 2024 12:32 pm

    The installer is packaged and released here: https://mendelson.org/ntvdmx64.html

    You want to download/use the "CCPU verson".

    No, dosbox and its forks are not useful for running BBS doorgames.
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    it works well! thank you i can load dos games on my 64bit system now without dosbox. Its part of the operating system now. I like this. However, I am getting an error on one of the doors i am trying to launch through the bbs it reads 16 bit msdos subsystem. command prompt - planets /pc:/sbbs/node1 The system cannot open Com 1 port requested by the application. choose close to terminate. Is there something else I need to establish communication between the door and the bbs? sometimes I am seeing that it cannot find the door program even though i am quite specific as to where the game should find it. Any tips? I am trying to install Planets:The Exploration of Space to start with. Thank you

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Rixter on Thu Jun 6 17:05:22 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Thu Jun 06 2024 07:49 pm

    it works well! thank you i can load dos games on my 64bit system now
    without dosbox. Its part of the operating system now. I like this. However,
    I am getting an error on one of the doors i am trying to launch through the
    bbs it reads 16 bit msdos subsystem. command prompt - planets
    /pc:/sbbs/node1 The system cannot open Com 1 port requested by the
    application. choose close to terminate. Is there something else I need to
    establish communication between the door and the bbs? sometimes I am seeing
    that it cannot find the door program even though i am quite specific as to
    where the game should find it. Any tips? I am trying to install Planets:The
    Exploration of Space to start with. Thank you

    Is this your response to Digital Man's message? If so, why does it look like it's all quoted (with the > characters in front of the lines)?

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Rixter on Thu Jun 6 18:14:17 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Thu Jun 06 2024 07:49 pm

    it works well! thank you i can load dos games on my 64bit system now without dosbox. Its part of the operating system now. I like this.

    "this" being NTVDMx64? I liked it too, at least on Windows 10.

    However, I am getting an error on one of the doors i am trying to launch through the bbs it reads 16 bit msdos subsystem. command prompt - planets /pc:/sbbs/node1 The system cannot open Com 1 port requested by the application. choose close to terminate. Is there something else I need to establish communication between the door and the bbs? sometimes I am seeing that it cannot find the door program even though i am quite specific as to where the game should find it. Any tips? I am trying to install Planets:The Exploration of Space to start with. Thank you

    For some reason, all of your message text was intended with a the quote (" > ") prefix. Something is wrong with the method in which you're entering messages.

    As for any message related to "Com 1", that means the program is trying to use the UART (and not FOSSIL) for communicating with the BBS client/user. Either configure the program to use FOSSIL/int14h instead, or change the setting in SCFG to use "UART" for the program's I/O method.

    This is all documented pretty well:
    https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:door:
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Thu Jun 6 18:16:03 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Thu Jun 06 2024 06:25 pm

    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Jun 06 2024 10:55 am


    well 'bbs dosbox' works pretty well. i've used it with some troublesome doorgames, too.

    Cool. Care to provide a 'how-to' page for sysops that want to replicate that success?

    People have been doing it, maybe since 2004 or 2006.

    Not for multinode doors.

    Deuce had that bbs dosbox page and i zipped it and uploaded it to vert.
    I thought the page was down but it's back up.
    https://dosbox.bbsdev.net/

    I don't think anyone's really still using dosbox for door games these days.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Thu Jun 6 21:15:26 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Jun 06 2024 06:16 pm

    replicate that success?

    People have been doing it, maybe since 2004 or 2006.

    Not for multinode doors.


    yeah that's always been the case but you can limit it to one person at a time.

    Also....COME ON NOW, MANNN. bbses aren't going to get many people trying to play the same doorgame at the same time.


    I don't think anyone's really still using dosbox for door games these days.

    unless you have some backdoor in synchronet you have no way of knowing that. i'm using it.

    I'd rather use it than that ntvdm hack that is one windows update away from being broken.
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  • From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to Digital Man on Fri Jun 7 07:51:46 2024
    As for any message related to "Com 1", that means the program is trying to use the UART (and not FOSSIL) for communicating with the BBS client/user. Either configure the program to use FOSSIL/int14h instead, or change the setting in SCFG to use "UART" for the program's I/O method.

    does synchronet provide the fossil or uart or is this something i need to add to the bbs? run it through a batch file?
    thanks

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  • From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to Nightfox on Fri Jun 7 12:20:04 2024
    I won’t quote on this one from the website. I do no see the > symbol at all.

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  • From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to Digital Man on Fri Jun 7 12:27:02 2024
    I am not sure about the > symbols. I do not see them here. I am using the web interface to read and reply. I use a special screen that magnifies everything to supersize so I can read, so I might be missing this. I got my first door installed and running it is called planets the exploration of space. Thank you for all the help. Now trying to track down the author to register it. Last updated 2001, lol will I find him?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Rixter on Fri Jun 7 11:34:01 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Fri Jun 07 2024 12:27 pm

    my first door installed and running it is called planets the exploration of space. Thank you for all the help. Now trying to track down the author to register it. Last updated 2001, lol will I find him?

    I registered it in 2010, sent in payment and got a registration code.. I remember going to Gameport:
    https://www.gameport.com/bbs/planets.html

    But soon after that, I started to see people saying they were becoming unresponsive and hard to get a registration code from them. Their web site is still up though and has pages to register Planets: The Exploration of Space, LORD, and some other doors. Maybe you can try contacting them first to make sure you can still register it.

    Nightfox

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  • From kk4qbn@VERT/KK4QBN to Rixter on Fri Jun 7 15:42:12 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Fri Jun 07 2024 12:27:02

    I am not sure about the >> symbols. I do not see them here. I am using the web
    interface to read and reply. I use a special screen that magnifies everything to supersize so I can read, so I might be missing this. I got my first door installed and running it is called planets the exploration of space. Thank you for all the help. Now trying to track down the author to register it. Last updated 2001, lol will I find him?

    Yep, thats actually one that can still be registered.

    http://www.gameport.com/bbs/planets.html
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  • From kk4qbn@VERT/KK4QBN to Rixter on Fri Jun 7 15:44:28 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: kk4qbn to Rixter on Fri Jun 07 2024 15:42:12

    my first door installed and running it is called planets the exploration
    of space. Thank you for all the help. Now trying to track down the author
    to register it. Last updated 2001, lol will I find him?

    Yep, thats actually one that can still be registered.

    Well, I've been waiting 3 minutes for the website to load and it won't..

    If you have issue with it maybe do like everyone else does and use a keymaker :-)
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to kk4qbn on Fri Jun 7 15:28:21 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: kk4qbn to Rixter on Fri Jun 07 2024 03:44 pm

    Yep, thats actually one that can still be registered.

    Well, I've been waiting 3 minutes for the website to load and it won't..

    If you have issue with it maybe do like everyone else does and use a keymaker :-)

    Interesting.. I visited that site (Gameport) earlier today and it loaded for me.

    Nightfox

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  • From kk4qbn@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Fri Jun 7 19:34:46 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Nightfox to kk4qbn on Fri Jun 07 2024 15:28:21

    Well, I've been waiting 3 minutes for the website to load and it won't..

    If you have issue with it maybe do like everyone else does and use a
    keymaker :-)

    Interesting.. I visited that site (Gameport) earlier today and it loaded for me.

    Lol.. I finally gave up on it after a couple more minutes.. let me try again..

    it's making the initial connection to gameport.com, but then hangs up trying to connect to p.moreover.com so it just sits there blank.
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  • From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to kk4qbn on Sat Jun 8 07:39:22 2024
    i got gameport.com to load, but they do not answer phone nor reply to email so I am assuming they are 'dead.' At this point i would be hesitant to turn over payment info. thanks anyways guys. I will let it run unregistered. I got it running thanks to all of you and the helpful notes. I consider it a success after all.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Rixter on Sat Jun 8 23:06:05 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Fri Jun 07 2024 07:51 am

    does synchronet provide the fossil or uart or is this something i need to add to the bbs? run it through a batch file?

    You don't need to run anything through a batch file.

    Synchronet for Windows comes with its own virtual UART / FOSSIL driver. https://wiki.synchro.net/monitor:sbbsexec

    A UART is the physical serial/comm port/device. A "virtual UART driver" creates a software virtual UART for DOS software to see/talk to as if it's a talking to a physical UART.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Rixter on Sat Jun 8 23:08:11 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Fri Jun 07 2024 12:27 pm

    I am not sure about the > symbols. I do not see them here. I am using the web interface to read and reply.

    There's more than one "web interface" for Synchronet. I assume you're referring to ecWeb. Maybe try using the traditional BBS interface for messaging instead?
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Rixter on Sat Jun 8 23:10:41 2024
    I am not sure about the > symbols. I do not see them here. I am using the web interface to read and reply.

    I'm replying to your message using ecWeb. It automatically put the > symbols at the beginning of each line of your message when I quoted it with the "Quote" button. Seems to work fine.

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Digital Man on Sun Jun 9 05:08:48 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Digital Man to Rixter on Sat Jun 08 2024 11:10 pm

    of your message when I quoted it wit
    the "Quote" button. Seems to work fi

    This is just a theory as I have not
    seen or used that web interface, but
    what if you accidentally move your
    cursor to the quoted area, pressed
    enter to go to a new line, and started
    typing there? I think I have seen
    message editors get confused like that
    and just keep adding >'s to newly typed
    lines.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Digital Man on Sun Jun 9 08:07:00 2024
    Digital Man wrote to Rixter <=-

    I am not sure about the > symbols. I do not see them here. I am using the
    web
    interface to read and reply.

    I'm replying to your message using ecWeb. It automatically put
    the > symbols at the beginning of each line of your message when I
    quoted it with the "Quote" button. Seems to work fine.

    Whoa! This is gonna blow some minds, and some pre-conceived notions.

    Very complicated, too! Too difficult! ;-)



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to phigan on Sun Jun 9 15:24:10 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: phigan to Digital Man on Sun Jun 09 2024 05:08 am

    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: Digital Man to Rixter on Sat Jun 08 2024 11:10 pm

    of your message when I quoted it wit the "Quote" button. Seems to work fi

    This is just a theory as I have not seen or used that web interface, but what if you accidentally move your cursor to the quoted area, pressed enter to go to a new line, and started typing there? I think I have seen message editors get confused like that and just keep adding >'s to newly typed lines.

    It seem to work intuitively to me (and I didn't write it). <shrug>
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to phigan on Sun Jun 9 19:00:26 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: phigan to Digital Man on Sun Jun 09 2024 05:08 am

    This is just a theory as I have not seen or used that web interface, but

    why are you making a theory when you haven't seen it.

    to go to a new line, and started typing there? I think I have seen message editors get confused like that and just keep adding >'s to newly typed lines.

    what message editors did that?
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Mon Jun 10 07:34:00 2024
    I am not sure about the > symbols. I do not see them here. I am using the
    web
    interface to read and reply.

    I'm replying to your message using ecWeb. It automatically put
    the > symbols at the beginning of each line of your message when I quoted it with the "Quote" button. Seems to work fine.

    Whoa! This is gonna blow some minds, and some pre-conceived notions.

    Very complicated, too! Too difficult! ;-)

    I am pretty sure he mentioned in another message that he is visually
    impaired. I would not call myself impaired but I do require some serious corrections. Sometimes I miss characters on the web interface, especially
    the "runes" one. In SLMR, not so much. ;)


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Mon Jun 10 10:29:00 2024
    Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    I am not sure about the > symbols. I do not see them here. I am using the web interface to read and reply.

    I'm replying to your message using ecWeb. It automatically put
    the > symbols at the beginning of each line of your message when I quoted it with the "Quote" button. Seems to work fine.

    Whoa! This is gonna blow some minds, and some pre-conceived notions.
    Very complicated, too! Too difficult! ;-)

    I am pretty sure he mentioned in another message that he is
    visually impaired. I would not call myself impaired but I do

    I may have missed that, but it doesn't explain the complete lack of
    quoting, or even trying to. That's more of a "concept" thing.

    require some serious corrections. Sometimes I miss characters on
    the web interface, especially the "runes" one. In SLMR, not so
    much. ;)

    Yeah... I don't even bother with a web interface, it's not what a BBS
    is, to me.

    If I didn't like MultiMail so much, especially that it's native Linux,
    I'd be using SLMR too. That was my everyday driver a few decades ago!
    :-)



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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to phigan on Mon Jun 17 10:14:31 2024
    Re: Where do I get ntvdmx64
    By: phigan to Digital Man on Sun Jun 09 2024 05:08:48

    what if you accidentally move your
    cursor to the quoted area, pressed
    enter to go to a new line, and started
    typing there? I think I have seen
    message editors get confused like that
    and just keep adding >'s to newly typed

    webv4 doesn't do "live" quoting or any kind of real time mangling of a message you're composing. You click the "quote" button, it wraps and quotes the reply-to message and pastes it into the text input, that's it. You hit enter on any line at that point, you get a new blank line.

    echicken
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