Question about SyncTERM, and the ST website - is there any interest in updating its style/website? Its... really retro - and fine for US, but is really a blockade for new users, or younger users... I want to bring m0re folks to BBSing and am willing to help - if allowed. Would DM, or the
anyone else, hopefully DM/Nightfox (I'm forgetting the dev of syncterm, aren't I... lol) and the rest of the Dovenet r0ckstars, feel the same???
SyncTERM masters, be open to updating the SyncTERM website for 2o24?
I know theres many here much m0re capable of an update than me - but I'd
Question about SyncTERM, and the ST website - is there any interest in updatin
its style/website? Its... really retro - and fine for US, but is really a bloc
de for new users, or younger users... I want to bring m0re folks to BBSing and
m willing to help - if allowed. Would DM, or the SyncTERM masters, be open to dating the SyncTERM website for 2o24?
Question about SyncTERM, and the ST website - is there any interest in updating its style/website? Its... really retro - and fine for US, but is really a blockade for new users, or younger users... I want to bring m0re folks to BBSing and am willing to help - if allowed. Would DM, or the SyncTERM masters, be open to updating the SyncTERM website for 2o24?
I can't say I really feel as strongly about it. I'm actually not sure there's anything really wrong with the SyncTerm web site.. One thing I actually like about that style of web page is that it's simple and loads fast, without a lot of added fluff (i.e., no ads!). I think that kind of web page helps you find what you're looking for more easily. What in particular would you change about it?
SyncTERM masters, be open to updating the SyncTERM website for 2o24?
I know theres many here much m0re capable of an update than me - but I'd
"2o24", "m0re".. Is your keybaord broken? :P
we won't have any 'young' users, or any people that can't navigate a website. that is if you dont factor in people who call bbses once and never again.
I can't say I really feel as strongly about it. I'm actually not sure there's anything really wrong with the SyncTerm web site.. One thing I actually like about that style of web page is that it's simple and loads fast, without a lot of added fluff (i.e., no ads!). I think that kind
of web page helps you find what you're looking for more easily. What in particular would you change about it?
Deuce is the master of the syncterm website, so you'd need to bring it
up with him. He doesn't frequent DOVE-Net, but you can find him on irc.synchro.net (in #synchronet and other channels) and the syncterm support on sourceforge.net. --
Yes, I think that's the problem he's describing that he wants to fix..
For example, the MuffinTerm website makes it super easy - a user can download the app or open in an App Store easily. (I know thats not SyncTERM, but... for example.)
https://muffinterm.app
But I think the SyncTerm web site is fairly easy too. There are
download links for SyncTerm for Windows and MacOS toward the bottom of
the page
Re: SyncTERM website...
By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Dec 12 2023 04:09 pm
we won't have any 'young' users, or any people that can't navigate a website. that is if you dont factor in people who call bbses once and never again.
Yes, I think that's the problem he's describing that he wants to fix..
Nightfox
I can't say I really feel as strongly about it. I'm actually not sure there's anything really wrong with the SyncTerm web site.. One thing I actually like about that style of web page is that it's simple and loads fast, without a lot of added fluff (i.e., no ads!). I think that kind
of web page helps you find what you're looking for more easily. What in particular would you change about it?
*I* agree with you - its easy enough to tell non-BBS users to just click the flag and get on with standard installs, but for non-BBS users it can be a lot.
I'd love if it had all thats there now, but maybe on thru a gitlab page, or other page of the site - with the landing page that looks updated and a nice 'Download' button at top that brings non-BBS users to current MacOS/Windows/Linux executables. (If available)
Deuce is the master of the syncterm website, so you'd need to bring it up with him. He doesn't frequent DOVE-Net, but you can find him on irc.synchro.net (in #synchronet and other channels) and the syncterm support on sourceforge.net. --
KK - I've reached out to him before about compile stuff and will do again. Again, its no biggy to ME - but for new users a landing page w/ a quick and easy 'Download' button that displays installable executables might help them understand easier.
I'm thankful for all the info and different releases on the page - but I live in the terminal, too. :P
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Question about SyncTERM, and the ST website - is there any interest in updating its style/website? Its... really retro - and fine for US, but is really a blockade for new users, or younger users...
I think it would go a long way to help foster new users to our wonderful community.
(This is my first DOVE-Net post from my new web UI, so apologies if anything's wonky with the formatting.)
For example, the MuffinTerm website makes it super easy - a user can downloa the app or open in an App Store easily. (I know thats not SyncTERM, but... f
But I think the SyncTerm web site is fairly easy too. There are
download links for SyncTerm for Windows and MacOS toward the bottom of
the page
KK - no worries... I only was thinking of more non-BBS folks, but agree - I can fully navigate the ST site. :P
maybe he thinks we need some giant green animated arrow that says "DOWNLOAD HER
"
we won't have any 'young' users, or any people that can't navigate a website. that is if you dont factor in people who call bbses once and never again.
Yes, I think that's the problem he's describing that he wants to fix..
Yes, I think that's the problem he's describing that he wants to fix..
For example, the MuffinTerm website makes it super easy - a user can downloa >
https://muffinterm.app
Muffinterm is only for Mac right?
https://muffinterm.app
Muffinterm is only for Mac right?
Question about SyncTERM, and the ST website - is there any interest in updating its style/website? Its... really retro - and fine for US, but is really a blockade for new users, or younger users...
I think it would go a long way to help foster new users to our wonderful community.
The site is hideous, but I think Deuce likes it that way.
The gigantic waving flag was an "enhancement" following frequent complaints that people couldn't find the download link. They still have trouble locating it. I don't even recognize it as a download link until I stop being
KK - no worries... I only was thinking of more non-BBS folks, but agree - I can fully navigate the ST site. :P
I had another look, and on 2nd thought, I think the page probably could be improved. Above the download links at the bottom, it says "the below links are almost certainly not what you want". The 'actual' download link is more toward the middle (under the flag), and there's also another link that says "or here". The page probably could be simplified a bit. And the color scheme could be better, I think.
maybe he thinks we need some giant green animated arrow that says "DOWNLOAD HER
"
I was just there yesterday and I think it just might have something close
to that.
* SLMR 2.1a * I am Drunk of Borg. Resistance is floor tile!
we won't have any 'young' users, or any people that can't navigate a website. that is if you dont factor in people who call bbses once and never again.
Yes, I think that's the problem he's describing that he wants to fix..
That was my impression also.
But I think the SyncTerm web site is fairly easy too. There are download links for SyncTerm for Windows and MacOS toward the bottom of the page
KK - no worries... I only was thinking of more non-BBS folks, but agree - I can fully navigate the ST site. :P
I had another look, and on 2nd thought, I think the page probably could be improved. Above the download links at the bottom, it says "the below links are almost certainly not what you want". The 'actual' download link is more toward the middle (under the flag), and there's also another link that says "or here". The page probably could be simplified a bit. And the color scheme could be better, I think.
you both are understanding me wrong.
We dont have users.
And the people that are too dumb to download syncterm when dude has tons of links on the site wouldn't be good users that would stick around.
you both are understanding me wrong.
We dont have users.
And the people that are too dumb to download syncterm when dude has tons of links on the site wouldn't be good users that would stick around.
2oFB has 'users' - young ones who call once... and twice - and then call back and chat for a year.
Its mostly because I market, runs ads in unique places and engage them in
a
nice and welcoming way when they pop up and say hey, I found a post on reddit or FB or at VCFSOCAL... but yea, 'we don't have users'. :P
you both are understanding me wrong.
We dont have users.
paulie420 wrote to MRO <=-
you both are understanding me wrong.
We dont have users.
And the people that are too dumb to download syncterm when dude has tons of links on the site wouldn't be good users that would stick around.
2oFB has 'users' - young ones who call once... and twice - and
then call back and chat for a year.
Its mostly because I market, runs ads in unique places and engage
them in a nice and welcoming way when they pop up and say hey, I
found a post on reddit or FB or at VCFSOCAL... but yea, 'we don't
have users'. :P
there are still BBSs that get callers.
I have a few users too, some that call every single day. Rock on.
I also see you and the people you hang out with get offended when i mention things arent that active anymore. Hey, it's not your fault. people have moved on.
Too bad you werent around when it was actually active.
? I went away in 97 until 2017 - adulting, and all.
But 90-97 was a fun time..
you both are understanding me wrong.
We dont have users.
I actually have a few. The majority are older than I am, though.
MRO wrote "we" dont' have users, when he should have written "I" don't
have users. That's because he has a crap board not even accessible to
the public, and doesn't really know how to actually run a good one. He
also doesn't understand words like "market" and "engage".
He can't seem to realize that although it isn't like it was 25 years
ago, there are still BBSs that get callers.
I have a few users too, some that call every single day. Rock on.
Re: Re: SyncTERM website...
By: Gamgee to paulie420 on Thu Dec 14 2023 02:28 pm
there are still BBSs that get callers.
I have a few users too, some that call every single day. Rock on.
I've had some regulars too (and sometimes they come and go), and at least some of them, I'm pretty sure aren't sysops of other BBSes.
Similar time-frames, my friend! I consider my "active" years to be 1992-1996.
I really dig the way you've been able to attract/educate a whole new crop
of folks to BBSing with your outreach, welcome and patient explanations.
My favorite thing is when people return to BBSing, while they often
express surprise it still exists, they are so glad it does.
I agree -- the syncterm site could use a little modernization, and
it's a geat program. I'll also point more tech-savvy folks to IcyTerm, MagiTerm and Netrunner (I know you do, too)!
I've had some regulars too (and sometimes they come and go), and at least some of them, I'm pretty sure aren't sysops of other BBSes.
Re: Re: SyncTERM website...
By: Gamgee to paulie420 on Thu Dec 14 2023 02:28 pm
MRO wrote "we" dont' have users, when he should have written "I" don't have users. That's because he has a crap board not even accessible to the public, and doesn't really know how to actually run a good one. He also doesn't understand words like "market" and "engage".
yeah you dont know shit about me, you havent ran a system as long as i do,
He can't seem to realize that although it isn't like it was 25 years
ago, there are still BBSs that get callers.
no you cant seem to realize that if you are standing outside and some dew drops from a leaf, it doesn't mean it's raining.
I have a few users too, some that call every single day. Rock on.
yeah rock on with your pathetic self. and your 5 years.
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: SyncTERM website...
By: Gamgee to paulie420 on Thu Dec 14 2023 02:28 pm
there are still BBSs that get callers.
I have a few users too, some that call every single day. Rock on.
I've had some regulars too (and sometimes they come and go), and
at least some of them, I'm pretty sure aren't sysops of other
BBSes.
you should just tell them to use htmlterm because then they dont need
to dick around with a client.
Why are you hiding yours? Because it's completely stock and boring? <CHORTLE>
Yes, that's good. I'm very sure many of my users are not sysops,
although some are.
MRO is somewhat detached from reality. ;-)
you should just tell them to use htmlterm because then they dont need
to dick around with a client.
Yeah, HTML/wss definitely the path of least resistance for new folks. Easiest way to get them in.
I guess BBSing will continue to be a niche thing, and there is definitely less activity than when I returned a while back. It seems to spike every
now and then, but it's always pretty low. I'm grateful for the people who *are* here, and stick around :)
MRO wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Re: Re: SyncTERM website...
By: Dan Clough to MRO on Fri Dec 15 2023 07:50 am
Why are you hiding yours? Because it's completely stock and boring? <CHORTLE>
i'm not hiding anything.
don't know what you are talking about.
MRO wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: SyncTERM website...
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Fri Dec 15 2023 07:56 am
Yes, that's good. I'm very sure many of my users are not sysops,
although some are.
MRO is somewhat detached from reality. ;-)
still dont know what you have against me.
you have always gone out of your way to take shots at me
think i'll add you back if you don't improve your entertainment
value.
? I went away in 97 until 2017 - adulting, and all.
But 90-97 was a fun time..
Similar time-frames, my friend! I consider my "active" years to be 1992-1996. Retruned around 2018. It's a different time now, but still a blast.
yeah you dont know shit about me, you havent ran a system as long as i
do, and your information is entirely wrong. Like every word you said
about my bbs and me is incorrect. furthermore, i run multiple bbses
which you still can't wrap your empty head around.
Similar time-frames, my friend! I consider my "active" years to be 1992-1996.
like around the mid 90s there was a lot of activity that a lot of people call 'the third wave'
we also had a rush of activity in the early 2000's but it wasn't as big
as the third wave.
I really dig the way you've been able to attract/educate a whole new cr of folks to BBSing with your outreach, welcome and patient explanations
dude you really have no idea how much money i've spent out of pocket on promoting bbsing and just staying up until 3am when i wake up at 6am helping people. i did that for a very long time.
My favorite thing is when people return to BBSing, while they often express surprise it still exists, they are so glad it does.
when they come back they check it out but those people go away and don't come back. i tried to bring back people from the huge bbses and they
have moved on. people prefer social media.
I agree -- the syncterm site could use a little modernization, and
it's a geat program. I'll also point more tech-savvy folks to IcyTerm, MagiTerm and Netrunner (I know you do, too)!
i either use mtelnet or syncterm. i've used netrunner and magiterm but they have a few things that rub me the wrong way.
you should just tell them to use htmlterm because then they dont need to dick around with a client.
:P MRO is just the local arsehole - always has been...
MRO wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Re: Re: SyncTERM website...
By: Dan Clough to MRO on Fri Dec 15 2023 07:50 am
Why are you hiding yours? Because it's completely stock and boring? <CHORTLE>
i'm not hiding anything.
don't know what you are talking about.
You playing dumb is..... comical.
As I said previously (and you snipped), your "BBS" is not publicly accessible. That's what you're hiding, doofus.
still dont know what you have against me.
I don't like blowhards or bullshitters. You're both.
you have always gone out of your way to take shots at me
I've done nothing that you have not done.
think i'll add you back if you don't improve your entertainment
value.
Whatever blows your dress up. Knock yourself out.
blast.
:P MRO is just the local arsehole - always has been...
you should just tell them to use htmlterm because then they dont need to dick around with a client.
You forgot to tell them how much of a loser newbie they are - cmon, MRO, get on top of yer game.
Re: Re: SyncTERM website...
By: paulie420 to j0HNNY a1PHA on Fri Dec 15 2023 21:24:00
:P MRO is just the local arsehole - always has been...
I wouldn't know, he's been in my shitlist for a long time. Never see any posts.
you're another guy that has not been around long enough to say anything about anything. and you don't know me. you are also another guy i took out of my block list but you're going back.
but does everyone here see what i mean?
I say we don't have users (which is a fact) and these delusional people take it personally and attack me. happens every time.
I actually have a few. The majority are older than I am, though.
yeah i have a few too. i dont really consider that normal capacity.
a few years back we got hit with a big slump and it hasn't bounced back.
there's a lot of people in denial about that or just don't have a good enough rspective because they haven't been around a long time.
There are a few boards that do get a lot of traffic, although not full capacity and maybe mostly other sysops. Maybe they are more l33t than most of us. :D More power to them, though. Whatever is working for them, I wouldn't discourage.
There are a few boards that do get a lot of traffic, although not full capacity and maybe mostly other sysops. Maybe they are more l33t than of us. :D More power to them, though. Whatever is working for them, wouldn't discourage.
i will say the asian bbses are still going strong.
There are a few boards that do get a lot of traffic, although not fulli will say the asian bbses are still going strong.
capacity and maybe mostly other sysops. Maybe they are more l33t than most >> of us. :D More power to them, though. Whatever is working for them, I
wouldn't discourage.
There are a few boards that do get a lot of traffic, although not fulli will say the asian bbses are still going strong.
capacity and maybe mostly other sysops. Maybe they are more l33t than most >> of us. :D More power to them, though. Whatever is working for them, I
wouldn't discourage.
Yeah, in the past few years there was discussion of one in Taiwan that is very active, and about the software that powers it. I was curious so I tried to check it out but it is very much all in Chinese. ;)
Back in the day, a network I was on (GT Power) had several nodes in Taiwan, but they also mostly participated amongst themselves. The only time you really realized they were around was when some of the users would post in the equivalent of the FIDO Asia Link echo.
j0HNNY a1PHA wrote to paulie420 <=-
Similar time-frames, my friend! I consider my "active" years to be 1992-1996. Retruned around 2018. It's a different time now, but still a blast.
