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    From Kc4zvw@VERT/WALLACE to ALL on Wed Jun 19 08:53:01 2024
    Hello,

    In the '90 I ran an XBBS system on a 486 and SCO Xenix and a second
    dialup line. When I could get affordable direct Internet access it was
    sort of the end of running a BBS.

    I find it interesting that the Fido-net is still around. Now trying to
    figure out what software/tools to use today. I remeber that I used to
    find PCBoard BBSes and RelayNews(RIME) was popular for tech types in the Jacksonville areas of North Florida.

    regards,

    David -- KC4ZVW

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Kc4zvw on Wed Jun 19 14:23:00 2024
    Kc4zvw wrote to ALL <=-

    In the '90 I ran an XBBS system on a 486 and SCO Xenix and a
    second dialup line. When I could get affordable direct Internet
    access it was sort of the end of running a BBS.

    I find it interesting that the Fido-net is still around. Now
    trying to figure out what software/tools to use today. I remeber
    that I used to find PCBoard BBSes and RelayNews(RIME) was popular
    for tech types in the Jacksonville areas of North Florida.

    All the tools needed for FidoNet (mailer/tosser) are included in modern Synchronet. They're called Binkit/SBBSecho, check the Wiki for more
    info:

    https://wiki.synchro.net/



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to KC4ZVW on Thu Jun 20 09:03:00 2024
    I find it interesting that the Fido-net is still around. Now trying to figure out what software/tools to use today. I remeber that I used to
    find PCBoard BBSes and RelayNews(RIME) was popular for tech types in the Jacksonville areas of North Florida.

    I would suggest Synchronet. It includes FIDO and QWK networking utilities built in, and runs on *nix.

    RelayNet has been gone a while. Most networks that survived were FTN or
    QWK based networks and not those based on proprietary software.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thu Jun 20 11:25:35 2024
    Re: Current supported tools f
    By: Dumas Walker to KC4ZVW on Thu Jun 20 2024 09:03 am


    RelayNet has been gone a while. Most networks that survived were FTN or
    QWK based networks and not those based on proprietary software.


    Relaynet was good for a while but it kind of drizzled out.
    On a funny note, I was actually YELLED at for quoting on relaynet.
    Infact, they talked to the sysop of the system I used about my quoting.

    I was using a bbs system that was strange to me and their editor's quote features didn't really allow me to pick and choose. Or, maybe I just didn't see it because I was a beginner.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Fri Jun 21 08:26:00 2024
    RelayNet has been gone a while. Most networks that survived were FTN or QWK based networks and not those based on proprietary software.

    Relaynet was good for a while but it kind of drizzled out.
    On a funny note, I was actually YELLED at for quoting on relaynet.

    Ironic considering some of the goings on here in Dovenet lately. ;)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Fri Jun 21 10:57:05 2024
    Re: Current supported tools f
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Jun 21 2024 08:26 am

    RelayNet has been gone a while. Most networks that survived were FTN or QWK based networks and not those based on proprietary software.

    Relaynet was good for a while but it kind of drizzled out.
    On a funny note, I was actually YELLED at for quoting on relaynet.

    Ironic considering some of the goings on here in Dovenet lately. ;)


    yeah maybe these no quoters can create their own msg network where it only makes sense to the one guy posting.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Fri Jun 21 11:09:01 2024
    Re: Current supported tools f
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Fri Jun 21 2024 10:57 am

    We don't quote on purpose, You and your brother and your OCD on quoting is way over the top.

    You two are the quote police ".l.."

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Denn on Fri Jun 21 13:25:07 2024
    Re: Current supported tools f
    By: Denn to MRO on Fri Jun 21 2024 11:09 am

    We don't quote on purpose, You and your brother and your OCD on quoting is way over the top.

    I don't really understand this.. In a text-based environment, it can be difficult to follow the conversation if you don't quote what you're responding to. If the reader doesn't remember what you're responding to, they'd have to go back over who knows how many messages to find the message you're responding to. Also, if you're only responding to a small section of the message, it can be especially good to quote just that part of the message.

    It's just good etiquette. If you don't quote, then you shouldn't be surprised to get negative responses about it, or no responses at all.

    Nightfox

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to MRO on Fri Jun 21 17:06:08 2024
    On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:57:04 -0500, you wrote:

    yeah maybe these no quoters can create their own msg network where it
    only makes sense to the one guy posting.

    Believe they already have something like that in place in Fidonet in the Telegram related echo. Funny though, it's now just as dead as the rest of the echos there. Whoda thunkit?

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Fri Jun 21 16:56:43 2024
    Re: Current supported tools f
    By: Denn to MRO on Fri Jun 21 2024 11:09 am

    I don't really understand this.. In a text-based environment, it can be difficult to follow the conversation if you don't quote what you're responding to. If the reader doesn't remember what you're responding to, they'd have to go back over who knows how many messages to find the message you're responding to. Also, if you're only responding to a small section of the message, it can be especially good to quote just that part of the message.

    It's just good etiquette. If you don't quote, then you shouldn't be surprised to get negative responses about it, or no responses at all.


    I only do that to MRO and Gamgee, and its because they're total jerks when someone forgets to quote, plus they always treat others like crap.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Fri Jun 21 19:28:04 2024
    Re: Current supported tools f
    By: Accession to MRO on Fri Jun 21 2024 05:06 pm

    On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:57:04 -0500, you wrote:

    yeah maybe these no quoters can create their own msg network where it only makes sense to the one guy posting.

    Believe they already have something like that in place in Fidonet in the Telegram related echo. Funny though, it's now just as dead as the rest of the echos there. Whoda thunkit?

    Regards,
    Nick

    I can't find anybody who carries it. i was talking on the telegram side.
    it must look weird on the fido side.

    does your bbs carry it?
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sat Jun 22 09:32:00 2024
    Believe they already have something like that in place in Fidonet in the Telegram related echo. Funny though, it's now just as dead as the rest of the echos there. Whoda thunkit?

    I can't find anybody who carries it. i was talking on the telegram side.
    it must look weird on the fido side.

    does your bbs carry it?

    I don't carry the Telegram echo, but do carry LITRPG where a whole lot of
    the traffic used to come from Telegram users. If they responded to a
    recent message, it was not too difficult to follow. If they responded to a post that was days old (or older), I usually had no idea what they were
    talking about and just skipped it. Others complained, and people
    eventually quit posting.


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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to MRO on Sat Jun 22 09:33:36 2024
    On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:28:04 -0500, you wrote:

    I can't find anybody who carries it. i was talking on the telegram side.
    it must look weird on the fido side.

    I think the originator was from Germany, or Russia or something. It basically just comes over to the Fidonet side as a one sentence post, I guess somewhat like Twitter. Not sure how it displays from Fido > Telegram, though.

    does your bbs carry it?

    No. I don't have much interest in one line posts, personal updates on what people are doing right this second, or where someone is eating, currently.

    But it seems as though a few places carry it:

    echotag: FIDONET.TELEGRAM

    some link I found: https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvE1gkHzEKAkapsHkdQ

    Only 26 members at the time of this writing.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Jun 22 10:15:55 2024
    Re: Current supported tools f
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Jun 22 2024 09:32 am

    the traffic used to come from Telegram users. If they responded to a
    recent message, it was not too difficult to follow. If they responded to a post that was days old (or older), I usually had no idea what they were talking about and just skipped it. Others complained, and people
    eventually quit posting.

    i think you have to quote on telegram to make it appear correctly. https://i.imgur.com/AcdFWI5.png
    I'm just curious to see what it looks like.

    I don't think it's the right pairing unless it's just someone posting articles. I have telegram paired to my irc server and it works out great.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Jun 22 10:30:15 2024
    Re: Current supported tools f
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Jun 22 2024 09:32 am

    I don't carry the Telegram echo, but do carry LITRPG where a whole lot of the traffic used to come from Telegram users. If they responded to a
    recent message, it was not too difficult to follow. If they responded to a post that was days old (or older), I usually had no idea what they were talking about and just skipped it. Others complained, and people
    eventually quit posting.

    oh i tried looking on your bbs but i can't find it due to how you organize everything together.

    i know you like it that way, but it would be good for people like me if you would organize your nets into msg groups.

    you could have both and synchronet has that cut and pasting.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Sat Jun 22 13:37:35 2024
    Re: Current supported tools f
    By: Accession to MRO on Sat Jun 22 2024 09:33 am

    No. I don't have much interest in one line posts, personal updates on what people are doing right this second, or where someone is eating, currently.

    But it seems as though a few places carry it:

    echotag: FIDONET.TELEGRAM

    I can't find anybody that carries it right now. i guess I can go digging in deeper.


    some link I found: https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvE1gkHzEKAkapsHkdQ

    Only 26 members at the time of this writing.


    yeah i've been in there. you have to follow their rules for posting, though.
    i just like something loose.

    Like I said, i think it's the wrong pairing.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Sat Jun 22 08:23:00 2024
    I agree with everything nightfox said.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Accession on Sat Jun 22 08:25:00 2024
    Accession wrote to MRO <=-

    Believe they already have something like that in place in Fidonet in
    the Telegram related echo. Funny though, it's now just as dead as the
    rest of the echos there. Whoda thunkit?

    So there's a Fido TELEGRAM echo and fido echoes ported to Telegram
    groups? I suppose I'm old-school, I prefer to talk about platforms on
    the platform in question.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MRO on Sat Jun 22 08:30:00 2024
    MRO wrote to Accession <=-

    I can't find anybody who carries it. i was talking on the telegram
    side. it must look weird on the fido side.

    To me, BBSing has been about long-form posting - it's a place to write
    well thought out responses in more than 140 characters. Porting Fido to Telegram is interesting, and it fills a missing niche of FTN on a phone.

    If you're looking for a Fido "fix" on a phone, the gated telegram groups
    are nice. Posting from Telegram to Fido loses something - people
    occasionally post image memes which is relevant to a microblogging
    audience, but all a Fido reader sees is an image URL.

    I'm my own case here, but downloading QWK packets and reading them with
    a console-based QWK reader is what I've done since the mid-90s. I've
    tried NNTP, points, web-based fidonet forums and Telegram, but keep
    coming back to QWK - despite some obvious limitations.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Jun 25 15:04:22 2024
    Re: Re: Current supported tools f
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Accession on Sat Jun 22 2024 08:25 am

    So there's a Fido TELEGRAM echo and fido echoes ported to Telegram
    groups? I suppose I'm old-school, I prefer to talk about platforms on
    the platform in question.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Jun 25 15:40:36 2024
    Re: Re: Current supported tools f
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Sat Jun 22 2024 08:30 am

    side. it must look weird on the fido side.

    To me, BBSing has been about long-form posting - it's a place to write
    well thought out responses in more than 140 characters. Porting Fido to Telegram is interesting, and it fills a missing niche of FTN on a phone.

    If you're looking for a Fido "fix" on a phone, the gated telegram groups
    are nice. Posting from Telegram to Fido loses something - people occasionally post image memes which is relevant to a microblogging
    audience, but all a Fido reader sees is an image URL.


    So have you actually seen it? who carries it?
    If it implimented correctly it would be decent. When i was on there it just seemed like I was posting from telegram onto fidonet and I wasn't seeing much fidonet posts in the history. I'm not sure, I left the group.

    I think my implimentation is better where i connected telegram to irc.
    I was going to gate discord as well, but i'm not a fan of discord.
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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Jun 25 18:56:52 2024
    Hello poindexter,

    On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 08:25:00 -0700, you wrote to me:

    Believe they already have something like that in place in Fidonet in
    the Telegram related echo. Funny though, it's now just as dead as the
    rest of the echos there. Whoda thunkit?

    So there's a Fido TELEGRAM echo and fido echoes ported to Telegram
    groups? I suppose I'm old-school, I prefer to talk about platforms on
    the platform in question.

    The FIDONET.TELEGRAM echo *is* ported to and from Telegram. There is only one echo for it, as far as I know.

    Regards,
    Nick

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