• PhoneNET v2.0 [En] -NO ANSI-

    From rmurray@21:1/235 to All on Fri Aug 16 09:04:46 2024
    Intranet Telephone Network for BBSes Around the Globe!

    I am thrilled to introduce our ambitious project: creating an intranet telephone network dedicated to BBSes worldwide!

    Here's our vision: Initially, we want to offer telephone extensions to BBS owners as well as to their modems. Each participant will be able to obtain two extension numbers: one for their telephone and another for their modem. For those who have multiple modems, we will accommodate them without any issue. Our server configuration has been carefully designed to prioritize telephone modems. Users are at the heart of our project and will benefit from a telephone extension and a modem extension if they wish.

    Our team, although small, is ready to provide the necessary assistance for setting up your SIP devices. Personally, I use GrandStream HT802, HT818, and GRP2602 models. We will also set up an intranet accessible to members, including phone numbers of those who wish to share them on the PhoneNet network, as well as BBS numbers.

    Access to the list of PhoneNet members' phone numbers will be restricted to members only. It will be impossible for outsiders to view this list or call a PhoneNet number. Our goal is to enable, for example, someone in New Zealand to call someone in Toronto, Canada, or to communicate with a BBS located on the other side of the planet to play Doors games or synchronize two BBSes via modem for fun.

    In the face of ubiquitous Internet and the exorbitant rates charged by phone companies, we aim to offer a fun and historical alternative. The goal is to revive a part of computing history while enjoying ourselves.

    In a second phase, we plan to expand the possibilities by allowing members to make calls to external lines, such as cell phones and landlines. This phase will be launched once the first phase is operational and we have enough members to support it. The more participants we have, the faster the development will progress. However, it is essential to cover the costs associated with setting up servers, electricity consumption, internet access, etc. Currently, the cost to join PhoneNet is ($1 USDC) per month per extension number. We hope this fee will cover expenses once we have a sufficient number of members.

    We are actively working on phase two, which will allow members to make calls outside the network. It is expected that this service will be more expensive, and its rollout will be gradual, targeting interested members. The name PhoneNet v2.0 pays homage to Apple, which created a network between Mac Classic computers using phone lines. We are continuing this tradition many years later.

    For now, this message is being shared on FidoNet 1:*... and as interest grows, we will provide updates on the project's progress. We hope to build a wonderful network of telephony and modems at 33600 bps and beyond.

    I apologize if some find the use of French problematic. I use this language because it is the one I am most comfortable with. Translating documents into English using ChatGPT or Google Translator takes a significant amount of time, which I prefer to dedicate to advancing the project. This work is done voluntarily for the computing and BBS communities, and we aim to enjoy the process while keeping interested parties informed. The "PhoneNet [Fr+En]" discussion forum reflects our intention to provide information in French while being ready to translate documents for those who need them.

    We are currently a small team of two and a half. I dedicate a lot of time to this project, while my colleague Bouzzi, our English expert, contributes when he can due to his professional commitments. We also have a Padawan in training, and we are hopeful for the future of the next generation.

    Thank you for your support and interest. We look forward to developing this exciting network!

    VA2RFC BBS Les Méchins, Québec Canada
    SysOp: rmurray PhoneNet: 1000040 (Modem)
    Telnet: va2rfcbbs.photorm.net:23 FsxNet: 21:1/235 FidoNet: 1:229/114

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  • From deon@21:2/116 to rmurray on Sat Aug 24 14:16:49 2024
    Re: PhoneNET v2.0 [En] -NO ANSI-
    By: rmurray to All on Fri Aug 16 2024 09:04 am

    Hey,

    Here's our vision: Initially, we want to offer telephone extensions to BBS owners as well as to their modems. Each participant will be able to
    obtain two extension numbers: one for their telephone and another for their modem. For those who have multiple modems, we will accommodate them
    without any
    issue. Our server configuration has been carefully designed to prioritize telephone modems. Users are at the heart of our project and will benefit
    from a telephone extension and a modem extension if they wish.

    I like your idea, and I'm curious to know if it gets any usage. While I do have a modem here that is practically new (from 25+ years ago), and I've thought of spinning up an asterisk server, I havent done so because I didnt think they'd be any usage (other than maybe me).

    development will progress. However, it is essential to cover the costs associated with setting up servers, electricity consumption, internet
    access,
    etc. Currently, the cost to join PhoneNet is ($1 USDC) per month per extension number. We hope this fee will cover expenses once we have a
    sufficient number of members.

    For me, this is a killer. I get stuff costs money, and generally so does any hobby, but I cant imagine committing to a subscription (especially since there are many other "free" ways of getting to a BBS). Maybe others will, so best of luck.


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  • From rmurray@21:1/235 to deon on Mon Aug 26 17:21:38 2024
    I like your idea, and I'm curious to know if it gets any usage. While I
    do have a modem here that is practically new (from 25+ years ago), and I've thought of spinning up an asterisk server, I havent done so because
    I didnt think they'd be any usage (other than maybe me).

    ...δεσ∩

    Well, I finally figured out why the USRobotics 56K modems I had weren't responding to AT commands, yet were still able to function and connect to a BBS and SIP connection without any issues. This also caused Windows to fail in recognizing the modems properly.

    First of all, out of the six modems I acquired, all were second-hand, and one was an open box.

    The first thing I discovered was that serial cards with AX99100 controllers are poorly recognized by Windows, and they don't properly identify the modems. So, it's best to avoid those. Instead, controllers with PL2303 chips are excellent and well-supported. So, if you're dealing with modems, go for the PL2303 controllers.

    The second issue was that I only had one power adapter for six modems, so I improvised by creating 9V DC power supplies using the output from my UPS. This setup worked, and the modems seemed to function, except they wouldn't respond to AT commands. That turned out to be the major problem causing the modems not to respond properly. The power adapters that USRobotics sells are not standard 9V transformers like the ones you see everywhere on the internet that convert 120V or 220V to 9V DC. Instead, USRobotics uses AC power converters. These convert 120V and 220V to 9V AC, and if you check with a multimeter, you'll find it actually outputs around 10.57V AC. If you set your multimeter to DC, you'll get 0V DC.

    I've been in computing and electronics for years, and I had never seen anything like this!

    So now, I need to buy five more of these special USRobotics adapters that provide 9V AC at 1A.

    I hope my experience helps someone else out there!

    VA2RFC BBS Les Méchins, Québec Canada
    SysOp: rmurray PhoneNet: 1000040 (Modem)
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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to rmurray on Tue Aug 27 09:25:07 2024
    Hello rmurray!

    On 26 Aug 2024, rmurray said the following...

    Instead, USRobotics uses AC power converters. These convert 120V and
    220V to 9V AC, and if you check with a multimeter, you'll find it

    Glad to hear you found it! :)

    (I know a Microcom Deskporte FAST/FAST+ modem of mine uses AC, but I think all the other ones use DC...)

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to rmurray on Tue Aug 27 06:55:00 2024
    rmurray wrote to deon <=-

    So now, I need to buy five more of these special USRobotics adapters
    that provide 9V AC at 1A.

    I could never justify buying a courier, so I ended up getting older
    Sportsters from work when they upgraded. I had a sportster 14.4 and a
    sportster 28.8 and was surprised to find out that one had a 20v power
    supply and one had a 9v power supply! Both looked identical.

    Make sure you confirm with the back of the modem... Thankfully, the
    barrels were different sizes and you couldn't mix up the power supplies.



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  • From rmurray@21:1/235 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Aug 27 10:41:00 2024
    Make sure you confirm with the back of the modem... Thankfully, the barrels were different sizes and you couldn't mix up the power supplies.


    Ha ha ha... It's really funny to suggest checking the back of the modem. Because that's precisely what's the funniest part. You look all over the modem, and it doesn't say what power supply the modem needs. Normally, it's always indicated on modem devices what kind of power supply they require. But on these 6 USR modems, there's nothing. You have to guess what transformer it needs.

    Back them, that might have been normal, but nowadays, it's not normal at all.

    VA2RFC BBS Les Méchins, Québec Canada
    SysOp: rmurray --- Modem: 1(418)317-1343 --- 4 Lines 56 kbp/s
    Telnet: va2rfcbbs.photorm.net:23 FsxNet: 21:1/235 FidoNet: 1:229/114

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to rmurray on Tue Aug 27 11:57:00 2024
    rmurray wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Make sure you confirm with the back of the modem... Thankfully, the barrels were different sizes and you couldn't mix up the power supplies.


    Ha ha ha... It's really funny to suggest checking the back of the
    modem. Because that's precisely what's the funniest part. You look
    all over the modem, and it doesn't say what power supply the modem
    needs. Normally, it's always indicated on modem devices what kind of power supply they require. But on these 6 USR modems, there's nothing.
    You have to guess what transformer it needs.

    Back them, that might have been normal, but nowadays, it's not normal
    at all.

    What is normal nowadays, though, is that there is likely a Users Manual available in PDF format, for free, on the web.

    Oh! Here it is:

    https://support.usr.com/support/5686g/5686g-files/5686g-ig.pdf

    (see Step Four, where it tells you it uses 9 VAC).

    This may be of interest, too:

    https://support.usr.com/support/5686g/5686g-ug/index.html



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  • From rmurray@21:1/235 to Gamgee on Tue Aug 27 16:27:12 2024
    What is normal nowadays, though, is that there is likely a Users Manual available in PDF format, for free, on the web.

    Oh! Here it is:

    https://support.usr.com/support/5686g/5686g-files/5686g-ig.pdf

    (see Step Four, where it tells you it uses 9 VAC).

    This may be of interest, too:

    https://support.usr.com/support/5686g/5686g-ug/index.html



    ... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.

    In the field of computing, there are generally two types of people. The first type are the seekers. When they encounter a problem, they do everything they can to find a solution and have the courtesy to share that solution with others. During the research phase, others who contribute to the advancement of computing join in on the search process.

    Then, there's the second category: people who know little or nothing about computing. When others are conducting research, they just observe without participating. But once someone else finds a solution and shares it, they try to act as though they already knew the answer and pretend it was obvious all along. They often put others down, claiming they knew it all along. In reality, these people know very little, and it's easy for them to make claims after the fact. These people are also known as trolls-those who try to belittle others while claiming credit they don't deserve.

    I've encountered many such individuals in my career in computing, and it seems even on BBS, they are around.

    All this is to say, I'm glad to have taught you something you didn't know, even if you're trying to make others believe that you did! :)

    VA2RFC BBS Les Méchins, Québec Canada
    SysOp: rmurray --- Modem: 1(418)317-1343 --- 4 Lines 56 kbp/s
    Telnet: va2rfcbbs.photorm.net:23 FsxNet: 21:1/235 FidoNet: 1:229/114

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  • From rmurray@21:1/235 to Gamgee on Tue Aug 27 16:44:23 2024
    ... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.

    Ah, so you're saying you're a child! Ah, okay, yes, I understand now! The way you talk, you really do sound like a child.

    Did you know that modems existed? Yes, yes, yes, it's not a joke. They did exist, after the dinosaurs.

    In the boxes for US Robotics modems and other brands... there was a modem, a telephone cable, a power supply block, and a CD with the manual on it.

    Did you know that when you buy second-hand, people almost never include the power supply block? They try to sell it separately to make more money. Did you also know that people like you give away RJ45 cables, thinking they are telephone cables for modems?

    Did you know that if you were a bit smarter, you wouldn't insult people who do research? Did you also know that if you don't have the power supply block, you just need to supply 5V DC at the output of the L7805C2T, which gives 5V and 1.5A DC? That way, you don't need the power supply block. Did you also know that if you had studied a little in school instead of goofing off and saying nonsense like you're doing now, you could learn from those of us with more experience who work to make progress, unlike you?

    Anyway, thank you; you really made me laugh with your 6-year-old's intelligence. :)

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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Gamgee on Tue Aug 27 16:52:08 2024
    What is normal nowadays, though, is that there is likely a Users Manual available in PDF format, for free, on the web.

    Oh! Here it is:

    HAHAHAHHHAHAH

    ... I'm happiest when I'm doing the cooking.

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  • From rmurray@21:1/235 to Exodus on Tue Aug 27 17:07:50 2024
    What is normal nowadays, though, is that there is likely a Users Manual available in PDF format, for free, on the web.

    Oh! Here it is:

    HAHAHAHHHAHAH

    ... I'm happiest when I'm doing the cooking.


    Yes me too! Ha ha ha ha! :))))))

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    Telnet: va2rfcbbs.photorm.net:23 FsxNet: 21:1/235 FidoNet: 1:229/114

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Gamgee on Tue Aug 27 17:04:39 2024
    Re: Re: PhoneNET v2.0 [En] -NO ANSI-
    By: Gamgee to rmurray on Tue Aug 27 2024 11:57 am

    What is normal nowadays, though, is that there is likely a Users Manual available in PDF format, for free, on the web.

    https://support.usr.com/support/5686g/5686g-files/5686g-ig.pdf

    I'm so old I remember, on a weekend, calling a voice auto-attendant faxback system to have a user manual faxed to me at work, going into the office, accidentally setting off an alarm, picking up my fax, explaining to security what happened, then goine home and setting the DIP switches on some piece of hardware that didn't bother silk-screening the slightest clue about the
    settings on the card.

    How far we've come. :)
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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to rmurray on Tue Aug 27 19:54:00 2024
    rmurray wrote to Gamgee <=-

    What is normal nowadays, though, is that there is likely a Users Manual available in PDF format, for free, on the web.

    Oh! Here it is:

    https://support.usr.com/support/5686g/5686g-files/5686g-ig.pdf

    (see Step Four, where it tells you it uses 9 VAC).

    This may be of interest, too:

    https://support.usr.com/support/5686g/5686g-ug/index.html

    In the field of computing, there are generally two types of people. The first type are the seekers. When they encounter a problem, they do everything they can to find a solution and have the courtesy to share
    that solution with others. During the research phase, others who contribute to the advancement of computing join in on the search
    process.

    Then, there's the second category: people who know little or nothing
    about computing. When others are conducting research, they just observe without participating. But once someone else finds a solution and
    shares it, they try to act as though they already knew the answer and pretend it was obvious all along. They often put others down, claiming they knew it all along. In reality, these people know very little, and it's easy for them to make claims after the fact. These people are also known as trolls-those who try to belittle others while claiming credit they don't deserve.

    I've encountered many such individuals in my career in computing, and
    it seems even on BBS, they are around.

    All this is to say, I'm glad to have taught you something you didn't
    know, even if you're trying to make others believe that you did! :)

    You seem a little confused. I did not claim, or imply, that I knew the answer, at all. What I was trying to tell you was that you could have
    (and SHOULD have) searched out the manual to know what kind of power
    adapter you needed. It's right there, and you could have avoided all
    the hassle you went through trying to get modems to work.

    Not sure why you're so hostile. Maybe you should chill out a little.



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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to rmurray on Tue Aug 27 20:00:00 2024
    rmurray wrote to Gamgee <=-

    ... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.

    Ah, so you're saying you're a child! Ah, okay, yes, I understand now!
    The way you talk, you really do sound like a child.

    No, you don't really understand much at all. I didn't write the above,
    it was a tagline inserted at the end of my previous post. Again I don't understand your hostility towards someone who tried to help you correct
    all the mistakes you made.

    Did you know that modems existed? Yes, yes, yes, it's not a joke. They
    did exist, after the dinosaurs.

    Well, I've likely used modems at least as long as you have, or longer.

    In the boxes for US Robotics modems and other brands... there was a
    modem, a telephone cable, a power supply block, and a CD with the
    manual on it.

    Which you didn't read (the manual). OK.

    Did you know that when you buy second-hand, people almost never include the power supply block? They try to sell it separately to make more
    money. Did you also know that people like you give away RJ45 cables, thinking they are telephone cables for modems?

    You make many wrong assumptions.

    Did you know that if you were a bit smarter, you wouldn't insult people who do research?

    You "did research"? It sounded like you applied DC power to a modem
    which needs AC power. The tiniest bit of research would have prevented
    you from making that (large) mistake.

    Did you also know that if you don't have the power
    supply block, you just need to supply 5V DC at the output of the
    L7805C2T, which gives 5V and 1.5A DC? That way, you don't need the
    power supply block. Did you also know that if you had studied a little
    in school instead of goofing off and saying nonsense like you're doing now, you could learn from those of us with more experience who work to make progress, unlike you?

    I don't appreciate your unfounded insults. Maybe somebody will come
    along and let you know that.

    Anyway, thank you; you really made me laugh with your 6-year-old's intelligence. :)

    More uncalled-for insults. Not sure what your problem is, but I'm not
    the one who couldn't figure out what power my modem needed, and applied
    DC voltage when it wanted AC voltage (and then couldn't understand why
    it didn't work). Laughing, indeed.



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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Aug 27 20:02:00 2024
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: PhoneNET v2.0 [En] -NO ANSI-
    By: Gamgee to rmurray on Tue Aug 27 2024 11:57 am

    What is normal nowadays, though, is that there is likely a Users Manual available in PDF format, for free, on the web.

    https://support.usr.com/support/5686g/5686g-files/5686g-ig.pdf

    I'm so old I remember, on a weekend, calling a voice auto-attendant faxback system to have a user manual faxed to me at work, going into
    the office, accidentally setting off an alarm, picking up my fax, explaining to security what happened, then goine home and setting the
    DIP switches on some piece of hardware that didn't bother
    silk-screening the slightest clue about the settings on the card.

    I'm at least that old, too.

    How far we've come. :)

    Indeed! :-)


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  • From rmurray@21:1/235 to Gamgee on Wed Aug 28 07:05:53 2024
    More uncalled-for insults. Not sure what your problem is, but I'm not the one who couldn't figure out what power my modem needed, and applied DC voltage when it wanted AC voltage (and then couldn't understand why
    it didn't work). Laughing, indeed.


    Well, no, I'm not insulting you. I'm just using the same tone you used when you responded to me. I figured that's how you communicate. I don't understand why, when someone responds to you in the same manner that you speak, and it's directed at you, you perceive it as an insult. Because, in that case, when you address others in that way, they must perceive it similarly.

    Instead of continuing to dig yourself deeper, you should at least apologize for the tone you used. And be careful about how you speak to people. And especially, stop pretending that you know everything when, in reality, you know absolutely nothing.

    VA2RFC BBS Les Méchins, Québec Canada
    SysOp: rmurray --- Modem: 1(418)317-1343 --- 4 Lines 56 kbp/s
    Telnet: va2rfcbbs.photorm.net:23 FsxNet: 21:1/235 FidoNet: 1:229/114

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    * Origin: VA2RFC BBS (21:1/235)
  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to rmurray on Wed Aug 28 07:54:00 2024
    rmurray wrote to Gamgee <=-

    More uncalled-for insults. Not sure what your problem is, but I'm not
    the one who couldn't figure out what power my modem needed, and applied
    DC voltage when it wanted AC voltage (and then couldn't understand why
    it didn't work). Laughing, indeed.

    Well, no, I'm not insulting you. I'm just using the same tone you used when you responded to me. I figured that's how you communicate. I don't understand why, when someone responds to you in the same manner that
    you speak, and it's directed at you, you perceive it as an insult. Because, in that case, when you address others in that way, they must perceive it similarly.

    I think you should go back and read what I said in my original post to
    you. Nothing insulting in there, and it is very strange how you've
    reacted so strongly to someone who provided the info you were looking
    for. Please, go ahead, go and read it again. Then, tell us again how
    you are not insulting me with those replies of yours.

    Instead of continuing to dig yourself deeper, you should at least apologize for the tone you used. And be careful about how you speak to people. And especially, stop pretending that you know everything when,
    in reality, you know absolutely nothing.

    Perhaps Avon will have something to say to you about your posts. This
    network doesn't tolerate that kind of garbage.

    Nothing like a newbie Sysop with a thin skin and an attitude. One who
    spends *days* mucking around with modems and can't figure it out due to
    lack of knowing how to look for and read a users manual. Classic!



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  • From rmurray@21:1/235 to Gamgee on Wed Aug 28 09:26:36 2024
    ... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.



    This is the only point where we agree. This network does not tolerate insults and contempt. And in case you don't remember what you said, here is what you wrote. So I would ask you to avoid talking to me in the future, and things will be much better!

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  • From sPINOZa@21:1/116 to rmurray on Wed Aug 28 16:08:24 2024
    Well, I finally figured out why the USRobotics 56K modems I had weren't responding to AT commands, yet were still able to function and connect rm> rm> rm> rm> ...

    problem causing the modems not to respond properly. The power adapters that USRobotics sells are not standard 9V transformers like the ones you see everywhere on the internet that convert 120V or 220V to 9V DC.

    Hiya,

    I have the same problem as you described in an earlier post. I still have my modems from the 90s and once in a while I hook them up to enjoy the speed we used to have. I always hook up the USR modems, because .. well because they are USR ....

    I also have some other external modems, some noname 28k8 and a Smartlink V.32Terbo. Those two modems do exactly as you describe. I enter the AT commands, I see the lights responding and the modems do whatever they need to do except for giving back the OK and other result codes .....
    The modems also dont return a connect whatever message which is ofcourse a problem.

    So it could be that the adapters that I use for them are not the correct ones (I wrote down brand and modem types on them, but I could have made a mistake). Other issue could be that the adapters have gone bad.

    Maybe some still owns a Smartlink 1414AV V.32Terbo modem and adapter :)
    Anyway thanks for the "solution".

    gTx!
    SpI!

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  • From rmurray@21:1/235 to sPINOZa on Wed Aug 28 11:38:36 2024
    Maybe some still owns a Smartlink 1414AV V.32Terbo modem and adapter :) Anyway thanks for the "solution".


    Yes, in any case, it completely fixed my problem. I find it really strange because when you look at the modem's circuit, it takes the 9V AC power, which in reality is 10.57V AC with the USR transformers. And on the modem's PCB, it immediately converts it to 5V DC. I don't know why they did that back in the day. They could have directly used a 5V DC transformer as the power supply, which would have simplified the modem's electronic circuit.

    In your case, yes, it is quite possible to have a defective transformer. But for safety, if you can find the model number of the transformer originally supplied by the company, it will help you a lot. This Friday, I found several transformers, and I will need to place an order to standardize everything as it was back then.

    Does anyone have the circuit diagram for the USR model 5686 modems? We should ask our PDF specialist; I'm sure he has it. And it's better to ask him before doing any research, otherwise, he will tell us that he already knew and had it...:)))

    VA2RFC BBS Les Méchins, Québec Canada
    SysOp: rmurray --- Modem: 1(418)317-1343 --- 4 Lines 56 kbp/s
    Telnet: va2rfcbbs.photorm.net:23 FsxNet: 21:1/235 FidoNet: 1:229/114

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: VA2RFC BBS (21:1/235)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to rmurray on Thu Aug 29 10:18:42 2024
    On 27 Aug 2024 at 04:44p, rmurray pondered and said...

    ... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.

    Ah, so you're saying you're a child! Ah, okay, yes, I understand now!

    Hi Richard

    Unfortunately you've misunderstood that a tagline which is a random sentence plucked from a list in a database (refer Mystic BBS text editor global taglines in mystic\data\taglines.dat as an example of this) was written by Gamgee and inferred a tone of voice from the written correspondence between both of you that has escalated in a way where neither side is happy about it.

    The way you talk, you really do sound like a child.

    Please refrain from this type of response as it will only inflame communication between people. Let's keep it kind, respectful and helpful.

    Thanks :)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Gamgee on Thu Aug 29 10:25:39 2024
    On 28 Aug 2024 at 07:54a, Gamgee pondered and said...

    you speak, and it's directed at you, you perceive it as an insult. Because, in that case, when you address others in that way, they must perceive it similarly.

    I think you should go back and read what I said in my original post to you. Nothing insulting in there, and it is very strange how you've reacted so strongly to someone who provided the info you were looking for. Please, go ahead, go and read it again. Then, tell us again how you are not insulting me with those replies of yours.

    Hi there

    I'd point out Richard's first native language is not English and as such I think there's a level of misinterpretation going on using this form of text only communications that can beset even the most experienced of us native English speaking folk.

    Perhaps Avon will have something to say to you about your posts. This network doesn't tolerate that kind of garbage.

    Nothing like a newbie Sysop with a thin skin and an attitude. One who spends *days* mucking around with modems and can't figure it out due to lack of knowing how to look for and read a users manual. Classic!

    Rather than furthering a discourse which is only going to end in further discord it's best to drop the thread now and move on to some other topic etc.

    Let's keep it kind, respectful and helpful please.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to rmurray on Thu Aug 29 10:32:08 2024
    On 16 Aug 2024 at 09:04a, rmurray pondered and said...

    Intranet Telephone Network for BBSes Around the Globe!

    [snip]

    Thank you for your support and interest. We look forward to developing this exciting network!

    best wishes as you work to develop this idea :)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From rmurray@21:1/235 to Avon on Wed Aug 28 19:19:39 2024
    Thank you for your support and interest. We look forward to developin this exciting network!

    best wishes as you work to develop this idea :)


    Yes, Avon, the idea is there, but the customer demand just isn't there yet. But that's alright...

    VA2RFC BBS Les Méchins, Québec Canada
    SysOp: rmurray --- Modem: 1(418)317-1343 --- 4 Lines 56 kbp/s
    Telnet: va2rfcbbs.photorm.net:23 FsxNet: 21:1/235 FidoNet: 1:229/114

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: VA2RFC BBS (21:1/235)
  • From rmurray@21:1/235 to Gamgee on Thu Aug 29 07:05:16 2024
    Good morning,

    With the explanation that Avon provided, I now understand where the misunderstanding came from. It was a canned phrase that Mystic gave you, and let's just say it wasn't the most appropriate choice for the context. It didn't have the intended effect, especially since we had never spoken before. The overall message, with that particular phrase, made it seem like you were mocking me.

    However, after taking a step back and considering Avon's explanation, I now understand better and I'm glad I removed them from my BBS. I found those phrases more insulting than anything and also quite inappropriate. I apologize for having misinterpreted your message because of Mystic's inappropriate phrase. I misjudged your intentions due to this.

    I would like us to put this behind us. The words were inappropriate because the intentions were misunderstood.

    It would be great if we could move on and forget about this, if possible. I hope you feel the same way.

    Let's continue on a friendly basis if that works for you.

    VA2RFC BBS Les Méchins, Québec Canada
    SysOp: rmurray --- Modem: 1(418)317-1343 --- 4 Lines 56 kbp/s
    Telnet: va2rfcbbs.photorm.net:23 FsxNet: 21:1/235 FidoNet: 1:229/114

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: VA2RFC BBS (21:1/235)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to rmurray on Fri Aug 30 17:38:26 2024
    On 29 Aug 2024 at 07:05a, rmurray pondered and said...

    I apologize for having misinterpreted your message because of Mystic's inappropriate phrase. I misjudged your intentions due to this.

    [snip]

    I would like us to put this behind us. The words were inappropriate because the intentions were misunderstood.

    Thanks Richard, appreciate your efforts in this regard. Let's all move on now and look forward to other topics etc. :)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)