• Re: Renegade w/ OS/2 Warp 4

    From j0hnny a1pha@21:4/158 to doctor wade on Thu Sep 26 14:54:14 2024
    Success! I use D'Bridge to pass to RG. My bbs command in D'Bridge is
    cd \renegade
    +renegade -B57600 -N1 -Q
    This is with D'Bridge 4 and Rg v1.35 Dos.

    Thanks for this, I just replicated on ArcaOS 5.1! However, I realize that
    means it can only be a single node BBS, as the (virtual) COM port is
    defined in D'Bridge? Is that correct?

    Cheers,

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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to j0hnny a1pha on Thu Sep 26 20:07:30 2024
    Thanks for this, I just replicated on ArcaOS 5.1! However, I realize that means it can only be a single node BBS, as the (virtual) COM port is defined in D'Bridge? Is that correct?

    You paid for ArcaOS 5.1?

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  • From j0hnny a1pha@21:4/158 to niter3 on Thu Sep 26 19:01:12 2024
    You paid for ArcaOS 5.1?

    I did. was pretty stoked when it came out. didn't renew though.

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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to j0hnny a1pha on Fri Sep 27 02:38:49 2024
    On 26 Sep 2024, j0hnny a1pha said the following...

    You paid for ArcaOS 5.1?

    I did. was pretty stoked when it came out. didn't renew though.

    Besides RG, what sre you using it for and on what hardware?

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  • From j0hnny a1pha@21:4/158 to niter3 on Fri Sep 27 06:28:02 2024
    You paid for ArcaOS 5.1?

    I did. was pretty stoked when it came out. didn't renew though.

    Besides RG, what sre you using it for and on what hardware?

    Yeah, it was mostly BBS stuff -- I also have an instance of PCBOARD and Iniquity running. And just the pure nostalgia is a trigger for me, I
    worked at a job in the early 90's where i had to use OS/2 ocassionally and
    I really liked it.

    Originally, I wanted to run a multi-node DOS-based BBS but didn't want to
    run Windows or DOSBox + Linux, so OS/2 was fun to play around with. I
    paid the $139 on impluse <yikes>.

    I currently run ArcaOS on an old Thinkpad T43, and in virutalbox. I also
    got Warp 4.5 running on that Thinkpad (with the help of a YouTube video,
    kind of a pain). For running a BBS, it's 100% fine. Also had it running
    on a more modern desktop PC build. It was a 'daily driver' for a hot
    minute.

    But at the end of the day, there's not much benefit (for me) to ArcaOS
    unless you really need modern stuff like a browser or SMB server, or
    support for modern hardware and larger screen resolutions. And it really screams on modern hardware, multi-processor, etc. But I think there's also
    a copy of eComStation on Internet Archive...

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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to j0hnny a1pha on Fri Sep 27 10:32:06 2024
    Originally, I wanted to run a multi-node DOS-based BBS but didn't want to run Windows or DOSBox + Linux, so OS/2 was fun to play around with. I
    paid the $139 on impluse <yikes>.

    I currently run ArcaOS on an old Thinkpad T43, and in virutalbox. I also got Warp 4.5 running on that Thinkpad (with the help of a YouTube video, kind of a pain). For running a BBS, it's 100% fine. Also had it running
    on a more modern desktop PC build. It was a 'daily driver' for a hot minute.

    What BBS package did you manage to get working under 4.5? I was playing around with this as well, and found VMODEM would throw and error about a DLL or some sort. Couldn't get passed that error. Also couldn't get Renegade to intialize modem...

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to J0hnny A1pha on Fri Sep 27 09:50:54 2024
    BY: j0hnny a1pha (21:4/158)

    |11ja|09> |10> You paid for ArcaOS 5.1? |07
    |11ja|09> |07
    |11ja|09> |10I did. was pretty stoked when it came out. didn't renew though.|07 I would love a sandbox where i can use windows 3.1, os/2 and dos apps :)



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  • From j0hnny a1pha@21:4/158 to niter3 on Fri Sep 27 11:49:26 2024
    What BBS package did you manage to get working under 4.5? I was
    playing around with this as well, and found VMODEM would throw and
    error about a DLL or some sort. Couldn't get passed that error. Also couldn't get Renegade to intialize modem...

    Yeah, Renegade most recent releases are a no-go on OS/2, unless you use something like D'Bridge to pass the connection. Older Y2K version of
    Renegade apparently works tho:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrG2MUNneHc

    I believe i had PCBOARD and AdeptX working on 4.5...



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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to J0Hnny A1Pha on Fri Sep 27 15:54:01 2024

    Yeah, Renegade most recent releases are a no-go on OS/2, unless you use something like D'Bridge to pass the connection. Older Y2K version of Renegade apparently works tho:

    I wonder why. If I still had an OS/2 box and people actually ran RG, I might care to dig into this. But the few people running RG, let along RG on OS/2 isn't worth looking into unless it something that stands out in the code.

    ... Magicians are a vanishing species.

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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to j0hnny a1pha on Fri Sep 27 16:23:36 2024
    Yeah, Renegade most recent releases are a no-go on OS/2, unless you use something like D'Bridge to pass the connection. Older Y2K version of Renegade apparently works tho:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrG2MUNneHc

    Got'cha.

    Saw this as well.

    Sounds like Renegade is best to be installed under windows with NetFoss and Net2BBS at this point.

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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Niter3 on Fri Sep 27 18:09:55 2024
    Sounds like Renegade is best to be installed under windows with NetFoss and Net2BBS at this point.

    My recommendation.

    ... Can you repeat the part after "Listen very carefully"

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  • From Tiny@21:1/700 to Niter3 on Sat Sep 28 06:44:20 2024
    Hi Niter3,
    In a message to J0Hnny A1Pha you wrote:

    Sounds like Renegade is best to be installed under windows with
    NetFoss and Net2BBS at this point.

    Unless a native package there really is no reason to run OS/2 anymore.
    I was the worlds biggest os/2 fanboy for a looong time, so for me to say this....

    The GUI was lightyears ahead of it's time if you got into the whole thing, everything was an object, etc etc. It's just not worth the hassle anymore.
    I miss OS/2 at times, but once I launch a VM and realize any "modern"
    programs are just poorly ported linux programs, I quickly go back to
    windows. WSL runs the linux apps I want perfectly.

    Between dosbox, winevdm, and other tools you can run 16 bit stuff on
    windows 11 without the hassle of a full virutal machine. ie: I'm writing
    this using Sempoint which is a 16 bit windows 3.1 program on windows 11.

    Basically I think the only choices in 2024 are Linux or Windows if you want things stable.

    Shawn
    P.S. I see I jumped around in my paragraphs... I'm not gonna fix it because
    I'm too lazy. Sorry.


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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to Tiny on Sat Sep 28 08:44:57 2024
    Unless a native package there really is no reason to run OS/2 anymore.
    I was the worlds biggest os/2 fanboy for a looong time, so for me to say this....

    The GUI was lightyears ahead of it's time if you got into the whole
    thing, everything was an object, etc etc. It's just not worth the
    hassle anymore. I miss OS/2 at times, but once I launch a VM and realize any "modern" programs are just poorly ported linux programs, I quickly
    go back to windows. WSL runs the linux apps I want perfectly.

    Between dosbox, winevdm, and other tools you can run 16 bit stuff on windows 11 without the hassle of a full virutal machine. ie: I'm writing this using Sempoint which is a 16 bit windows 3.1 program on windows 11.

    Basically I think the only choices in 2024 are Linux or Windows if you want things stable.


    Appreciate your feedback,

    This is lining up with my findings so far..

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