• Dead NAS...

    From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to All on Wed Sep 11 20:56:00 2024
    We had a power cut, and when I turned on my NAS, no NAS.

    My NAS is a Synology DS1010+, modded to think it's a DS1511+ and running
    DSM 6.2. The LAN lights and power lights blink, but no drive lights, and
    it doesn't respond to SSH, ping, or Synology assistant.

    I'm hoping, if I can't revive it, to buy another 5-drive chassis and
    move the drive pool into it - it looks like that might be possible.

    Otherwise, any suggestions as to what's a decent, inexpensive NAS to
    support 12-14TB? I don't need containers or an app ecosystem, although
    it'd be nice. NFS, SMB and DLNA, mostly.



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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Ogg on Thu Sep 19 18:48:21 2024
    On 18 Sep 2024, Ogg said the following...

    Hello Arelor!

    I can't talk about the Synology. Word in the street is that
    Synology is the Apple of the NAS world.

    You're the 2nd person that has mentioned such a thing to me.
    So.. it's best to stay away from Synology boxes if the hope is
    to install DIY NAS software?


    I have an old Bufflo LinkStation which is supposedly a
    superior unit to the LS220 you linked. It is fine for a
    budget unit but you are going to bring it to its knees if
    you try to apply heavy load on it. I use it for storing
    backups.

    A two-bay would be good enough for me to start with. And 4TB
    (2 x 8TB, RAID 1) would be plenty. I too primarily just need
    to store clone-images and basic backups.



    I love Synology, my opinion is they have the best OS that runs a NAS, their OS is a bit tough to change to something else, and as someone mentioned they are moving towards making you use their enterprise HD's. My opinion is if you want to be able to use any HD, be able to change the OS to something else, then Terramaster, and UGreen are the way to go. I own a Synology, and a Terramaster 2 Bay which I will soon be getting a 4bay unit. The Terramaster to change the OS was as simple as opening it up pulling out a USB thumbdrive, installing a new one.What I did was install a 512TB nVME drive pulled the thumbdrive, put proxmox on a new thumbdrive, booted from it, and installed Proxmox on the nVME drive. Upon bootup after that I installed Xpenology in Proxmox, the great thing about this method is you can install anything you want testing different OS' until you decide which one you want to run. I ran TrueNAS for about a week, I ran Unraid, Open Media Vault, all at the same time actually. I finally settled on Xpenology until I got a retired Surveilance machine which had a better Hardware setup. I will soon retire that machine and move over to the 4Bay Terramaster.

    Sorry for rambling.

    Gonna plug my Synology Fanboy son here if you are interested in NAS software, hardware etc. check out my son's Youtube channel, Wundertech, and on the web www.wundertech.net he has a lot of useful info on his website and his video's explain a lot also...


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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Bucko on Fri Sep 20 00:55:00 2024
    Hello Bucko!

    Sorry for rambling.

    It is interesting to read about what other people settle with
    and why.


    Gonna plug my Synology Fanboy son here if you are interested in NAS software, hardware etc. check out my son's Youtube channel, Wundertech,
    and on the web www.wundertech.net he has a lot of useful info on his website and his video's explain a lot also...

    Yup.. quite a plug! :D But that's ok. I don't really need
    10GbE networking. My interest is just to have a good place to
    confidently dump backups on a regular basis and to store large
    media files. I don't need a NAS to "serve" multimedia.

    Interesting comment about ECC memory.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Bucko on Fri Sep 20 06:57:00 2024
    Bucko wrote to Ogg <=-

    I love Synology, my opinion is they have the best OS that runs a NAS, their OS is a bit tough to change to something else, and as someone mentioned they are moving towards making you use their enterprise HD's.
    My opinion is if you want to be able to use any HD, be able to change
    the OS to something else, then Terramaster, and UGreen are the way to
    go.

    There is a way to add most drives to the whitelist on Synology.
    Surprising that all of my Seagate and WD desktop 2TB drives are
    recognized and supported in the newest DSM. Some of those drives are 5+
    years old!


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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Oct 23 12:13:06 2024
    My NAS is a Synology DS1010+, modded to think it's a DS1511+ and running DSM 6.2. The LAN lights and power lights blink, but no drive lights, and it doesn't respond to SSH, ping, or Synology assistant.

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    Otherwise, any suggestions as to what's a decent, inexpensive NAS to support 12-14TB? I don't need containers or an app ecosystem, although it'd be nice. NFS, SMB and DLNA, mostly.

    My 6.2 Synology drive (4 bays) was also more dying in spring time, but one of my disks inside it too. I lost half of my RAID and as a part of recovery I purchased new 7.x based Synology with 6 bays. I purchased two larger disks (14TB Iron Wolf each) and set another RAID. Moved all data to new NAS and reinstalled everything with full reformat, check of the disks...

    The old still serves me, but I don't trust it so I put there only temporary data I don't want to keep on my computers. I purchased more HDD to new Synology and now I'm happy with 28TB of fully RAID 10 storage and newest platform. Old Synology was with me for about 10 years already.. that's good ROI. I hope new one will serve me well for similar timeframe too.

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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to opicron on Thu Oct 24 14:01:04 2024
    I went through 2 of Synology DS1621+ in half a year. From NEW!

    Reall?! Wow, that's suprising. They are pretty good NAS units over all.

    When it went bad, what did you loose, just the NAS? Meaning all you had to do is move your HD's over.

    What does the recovery process look like?

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  • From opicron@21:3/126 to hollowone on Thu Oct 24 16:10:09 2024
    The old still serves me, but I don't trust it so I put there only temporar data I don't want to keep on my computers. I purchased more HDD to new Syn and now I'm happy with 28TB of fully RAID 10 storage and newest platform. Synology was with me for about 10 years already.. that's good ROI. I hope one will serve me well for similar timeframe too.

    I went through 2 of Synology DS1621+ in half a year. From NEW!

    My third one is running stable for 2 years now. But it sure dented my trust in Synology. I actually still feel it can give up on me every moment, was even contemplating to add a backup same version which runs as a slave with the same data.

    But I think I will upgrade to a newer one next year. And buy two at once to make the backup plan work. Wanted a hardware transcoding CPU since Im running Plex.

    Lets see how I feel about it next year with the new line-up :P.

    oP!

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  • From opicron@21:3/126 to niter3 on Fri Oct 25 15:32:49 2024
    I went through 2 of Synology DS1621+ in half a year. From NEW!

    Reall?! Wow, that's suprising. They are pretty good NAS units over all.
    Yes, I think I was majorly unlucky. Especially seeing the third model is performing awesome.

    When it went bad, what did you loose, just the NAS? Meaning all you had to ni> is move your HD's over.
    Only the NAS, no data loss at all. The downtime was annoying though because all my stuff runs on the dockers. Torrent, Plex, Mystic etc, so I was down for a week until the new unit came in.

    The service initially wanted me to sent in the defective unit and check it before issueing the new model. I had to fight for receiving the new unit beforehand.

    What does the recovery process look like?
    Recovery was very easy, had to put in a fresh disk in the new NAS and started it to update the firmware. Then I swapped drives and it run like sunshine (at least for a bit). Same method for the third version.

    oP!

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