• Telnet 'server' software for Windows?

    From Malvinas@21:4/167 to All on Thu Aug 22 15:50:51 2024
    Hello all:
    I was wondering, what soft should I use to have my own personal computer respond to a telnet connection from the outside?
    I'm thinking about getting into my home computer from work through telnet.
    What software should I use? I wouldn't like to have a full-fledged BBS running just to have my computer respond and let me list files and simple things like that...
    Thanks for the info, I know too little of this 'telnet thing'... I'm feeling like Homer Simpson, going to install Jesus dancing macarena through telnet :p

    Cheers,
    Malvinas.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Malvinas on Thu Aug 22 12:11:58 2024
    Re: Telnet 'server' software for Windows?
    By: Malvinas to All on Thu Aug 22 2024 03:50 pm

    respond to a telnet connection from the outside? I'm thinking about getting into my home computer from work through telnet. What software should I use? I wouldn't like to have a full-fledged BBS running just to have my computer respond and let me list files and simple things like that...

    What OS are you running? If you're using Linux, I think there's a telnetd you can install. But for security, you should probably use SSH rather than telnet - and for that, it would probably be sshd (which may be made available by other packages).

    For Windows, it looks like there is OpenSSH that you can install to provide SSH access:
    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/openssh/openssh _install_firstuse

    Nightfox
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  • From J0hnny A1pha@21:4/158 to Malvinas on Thu Aug 22 20:10:32 2024
    BY: Malvinas (21:4/167)
    On Thursday,August 22, 2024 at 02:50 PM, Malvinas (21:4/167) wrote:

    Hello all:
    I was wondering, what soft should I use to have my own personal computer respond to a telnet connection from the outside?
    I'm thinking about getting into my home computer from work through
    telnet.
    What software should I use? I wouldn't like to have a full-fledged BBS running just to have my computer respond and let me list files and
    simple things like that...
    Thanks for the info, I know too little of this 'telnet thing'... I'm
    feeling like Homer Simpson, going to install Jesus dancing macarena
    through telnet :p

    I'd avoid telnet for this. Maybe passwordless SSH on an obscure port?

    You *could* use Syncterm's ssh and bam, drop right into a SSH session. But again, not super secure.

    I use the free Tailscale app to create a virtual private network on my computers, works pretty well.

    .jA


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  • From Malvinas@21:4/167 to Nightfox on Thu Aug 22 18:59:46 2024
    What OS are you running?
    I'm on Window$, I'll be checking out OpenSSH. Thanks for the info.
    I have a Linux distro on a second computer where I'm working on setting up a music streaming service...
    I might end up trying both...

    Malvinas.

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    ... Islas Malvinas, siempre Argentinas.

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  • From Malvinas@21:4/167 to J0hnny A1pha on Thu Aug 22 19:09:44 2024
    You *could* use Syncterm's ssh and bam, drop right into a SSH session.
    But again, not super secure.

    Syncterm *can* act as an SSH host??
    Also, what's not super secure about "*Secure* SHell (SSH)"?
    Thank you very much for the info.

    Malvinas.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Malvinas on Thu Aug 22 15:44:08 2024
    Re: Re: Telnet 'server' software for Windows?
    By: Malvinas to J0hnny A1pha on Thu Aug 22 2024 07:09 pm

    You *could* use Syncterm's ssh and bam, drop right into a SSH session.
    But again, not super secure.

    Syncterm *can* act as an SSH host??

    Yes, it can, though it's mainly for a user logging onto the BBS, not for providing shell access to the OS.

    Nightfox
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  • From J0hnny A1pha@21:4/158 to Malvinas on Fri Aug 23 04:59:10 2024
    BY: Malvinas (21:4/167)
    On Thursday,August 22, 2024 at 06:09 PM, Malvinas (21:4/167) wrote:

    Also, what's not super secure about "*Secure* SHell (SSH)"?

    SSH is fine, it's just sending passwords that's insecure.

    key-based is more secure, passwords can be prone to brute-force, etc.

    But look, who am I to lecture, I still run OS/2 and DOS machines.

    .jA



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  • From Bf2K+@21:3/171 to Malvinas on Thu Aug 22 21:07:34 2024
    I'd use something like TeamViewer for getting into your home PC. I uased
    to run it on my BBS PC so I could get into that PC remotely... worked
    great. When I moved the BBSes to a new PC, I didn't set it back up
    because I really didn't need it anymore.


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  • From SirRonmit@21:2/120 to Bf2K+ on Fri Aug 23 09:27:20 2024
    I'd use something like TeamViewer for getting into your home PC. I uased to run it on my BBS PC so I could get into that PC remotely... worked great. When I moved the BBSes to a new PC, I didn't set it back up because I really didn't need it anymore.

    All of these are blocked by my new office IT. I have been using Chrome Remote Desktop. No installer is needed for my Work PC, so I stay "hidden" from accessing my PC at home (cameras, 3D rendering, etc.)

    When my IP changes due to a power out/reboot, I can still remotely access and bring my BBS back online when needed. (My Mystic Telnet BBS is running on a Windows VDi on an old Dell Server.)

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    Timothy Norris aka SirRonmit
    admin@f4fbbs.com
    bbs.f4fbbs.com:2323 or :62323

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  • From Malvinas@21:4/167 to Bf2K+ on Fri Aug 23 19:37:35 2024
    I'd use something like TeamViewer for getting into your home PC. I uased to run it on my BBS PC so I could get into that PC remotely... worked great. When I moved the BBSes to a new PC, I didn't set it back up because I really didn't need it anymore.

    I don't want to use TeamViewer, I dont *need* to get into my PC from abroad,
    I just want to try out and learn how to use Telnet... It's an experimental thing only.

    Malvinas

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    ... Islas Malvinas, siempre Argentinas.

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  • From Malvinas@21:4/167 to J0hnny A1pha on Fri Aug 23 19:51:36 2024

    key-based is more secure, passwords can be prone to brute-force, etc.
    And you could only try to brute-force my computer if you found my *dynamic* IP... Where would you get that??

    Malvinas.

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    ... Islas Malvinas, siempre Argentinas.

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  • From J0hnny A1pha@21:4/158 to Malvinas on Fri Aug 23 23:06:51 2024
    BY: Malvinas (21:4/167)
    On Friday,August 23, 2024 at 06:51 PM, Malvinas (21:4/167) wrote:


    key-based is more secure, passwords can be prone to brute-force,
    etc.
    And you could only try to brute-force my computer if you found my
    *dynamic* IP... Where would you get that??


    Reconnaissance techniques such as scanning a range of IP addresses in a network or using tools like DHCP snooping can help a hacker identify active IP addresses, even if they are dynamic.

    But I'll shut up now, I'm not a model of network security, ha...

    .jA


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  • From Malvinas@21:4/167 to J0hnny A1pha on Sat Aug 24 19:23:11 2024
    Reconnaissance techniques such as scanning a range of IP addresses in a network or using tools like DHCP snooping can help a hacker identify active IP addresses, even if they are dynamic.

    But I'll shut up now, I'm not a model of network security, ha...

    .jA

    Really...? You got *that* ammount of free time??
    Good luck with finding anything interesting that way...
    Cheers!!

    Malvinas.

    Islas Malvinas, siempre Argentinas!

    ... Islas Malvinas, siempre Argentinas.

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  • From Roon@21:4/148 to Malvinas on Sun Aug 25 02:18:13 2024
    Hello Malvinas,

    23 Aug 24 19:37, you wrote to Bf2K+:

    I don't want to use TeamViewer, I dont *need* to get into my PC from abroad,
    I just want to try out and learn how to use Telnet... It's an
    experimental thing only.

    honestly there is almost nothing you can do on a windows box when you telnet in. its just a command prompt, but windows lacks the programs for command line.


    Regards,
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    dp

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Malvinas on Sun Aug 25 09:46:30 2024
    I was wondering, what soft should I use to have my own personal computer respond to a telnet connection from the outside?

    I missed this post earlier, but I wouldn't use TELNET for this at all...

    SSH is your friend, and I always turn off password authentication, create SSH keys on any computer you want to access the server from and copy their .pub(lic) keys to the server.

    Tailscale is a local VPN service that would allow you access into your network, but I just run my own VPN - I use PiVPN.

    Another option to further obfuscate the rest of your home network would be to run a router software like OpenWRT or pfSense would let you only put that one server public-facing...



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Malvinas on Sun Aug 25 09:47:30 2024
    Reconnaissance techniques such as scanning a range of IP addresses in network or using tools like DHCP snooping can help a hacker identify active IP addresses, even if they are dynamic.

    Really...? You got *that* ammount of free time??
    Good luck with finding anything interesting that way...

    Yes - 'they' do.



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  • From Rixter@21:1/242 to J0hnny A1pha on Mon Sep 2 12:36:44 2024

    BY: Malvinas (21:4/167)
    On Thursday,August 22, 2024 at 06:09 PM, Malvinas (21:4/167) wrote:

    SSH is fine, it's just sending passwords that's insecure.

    key-based is more secure, passwords can be prone to brute-force, etc.

    But look, who am I to lecture, I still run OS/2 and DOS machines.

    .jA

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    Nothing wrong with that.mi love DOS
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