Testing my bluewave uploads.



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01 Sep 24 05:48:02, Blue White made a test request.

Here is the answer from Zruspa's BBS:

============================== Message =============================
@TZUTC: -0500
@CHRS: CP437 2
@MSGID: 21:4/134 AA9650B3
@TID: Postie 0.15

Testing my bluewave uploads.



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Testing to see if my packet creator/tosser I wrote will actually work... It passed the clrghouz packet viewer (awesome tool. Thanks Deon!) so hopefully this actually gets sent out... *fingers crossed*

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Re: Testing
By: slacker to All on Sat Nov 09 2024 07:57 am

Hey...

Testing to see if my packet creator/tosser I wrote will actually work... It passed the clrghouz packet viewer (awesome tool. Thanks Deon!) so hopefully this actually gets sent out... *fingers crossed*

Thanks :)

What are you making?


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Hello slacker!

On 09 Nov 2024, slacker said the following...

Testing to see if my packet creator/tosser I wrote will actually work... It passed the clrghouz packet viewer (awesome tool. Thanks Deon!) so hopefully this actually gets sent out... *fingers crossed*

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Got you here! Looks good!

Best regards
Zip

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What are you making?I started writing my own BBS server earlier this year. It supports both color ANSI as well as 8-bit Atari ATASCII. There is local mail and a local message board but I've never connected to other systems before joining fsxnet. The packet creator/tosser is what I wrote that takes the message board posts written on my board and converts them to a ftn packet to go out binkd. It also parses the incoming packets pulled from binkd. Figuring out the packet stuff was a bit of learning curve. I'm writing the whole thing in Perl and the existing FTN::Packet modules don't create packets that pass the Clearing Houz's view packet so I sort of had to reverse engineer what was right/wrong with the output. I THINK I finally have it all squared away now. We'll see if this posts. :)

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Figuring out the packet stuff was a bit of learning curve. I'm writing the whole thing in Perl and the existing FTN::Packet modules don't create pack that pass the Clearing Houz's view packet so I sort of had to reverse engi what was right/wrong with the output.
I THINK I finally have it all squared away now. We'll see if this posts. :

Got you here m8

oP!

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Re: RE:Testing
By: slacker to deon on Tue Nov 12 2024 07:55 pm

Howdy,

What are you making?I started writing my own BBS server earlier this year. It supports both color ANSI as well as 8-bit Atari ATASCII. There is local mail and a local message board but I've never connected to other systems before joining fsxnet. The packet creator/tosser is what I wrote that

Nice, keen to see how you go...

What do you use for line endings?

For me your message was one long paragraph (making it hard to read), but I noticed when it went to matrix, it was 3 paragraphs.

So wondering if it is the same for others, or its just synchronet (or my bbs) and what I need to do to fix it. (I havent explored in detail why your message doesnt render nicely as I'm am away from home at the moment...)


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Re: RE:Testing
By: slacker to deon on Wed Nov 13 2024 03:22 pm

Howdy,

I *think* it should be good now... If so, this one should be three paragraphs as well.

Looking good now.


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Yeah, it looks that way to me too. I noticed after I sent the message.

I did a bit a digging and I managed to introduce a bug in my line ending in my latest test release.

I *think* it should be good now... If so, this one should be three paragraphs as well.
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Re: RE:Testing
By: slacker to deon on Thu Nov 14 2024 07:49 am

Howdy,

Just a quick question... what does it mean when I view one of my sent packets on clrghouz and the node in the SEENBY list is red? Does that just mean it hasn't received it yet or does that mean it was rejected/failed due to some error?

I see a few reds on each one of my packets so far but most are green.

Ahh, yes, I shouldnt use red, and its not consistent with how I've used red everywhere else. (I use red to mean bad/error, and its not an error in this case).

The red AKAs means the node hasnt collected the echomail yet (but is obviously subscribe to the area, and its queued to be sent to them).

Green means it has been collected/sent to the node yet.

And for the record, white AKAs means the node has seen it, but not delivered by clrghouz.


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Looking good now

Awesome! Thanks for confirming!

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Hi Deon,

Just a quick question... what does it mean when I view one of my sent packets on clrghouz and the node in the SEENBY list is red? Does that just mean it hasn't received it yet or does that mean it was rejected/failed due to some error?

I see a few reds on each one of my packets so far but most are green.

Thanks!

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Awesome! Thanks for the info. So looks like nothing to worry about there. :) Somethig I did notice is that 2/100 seems slow to pick up. I guess that is just what it is though.

Some other random question (sorry for so many), I noticed if I upload a bad NETMAIL packet to the 'View Packet' checker, I get an actual NETMAIL response to my name at my node. Are those supposed to be actually processed? Or should that error have come in the 'View Packet' page?

I can't seem to figure out what's wrong with my netmail packets. I keep getting a 'The from.*or to.*address in this netmail is the wrong address for the domain'. I'm specifying a from and to address so I'm not sure why they keep failing.

Maybe I'm addressing the to/from fields incorrectly in the message?

Sorry to be a bother.

Thanks for the help.

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Re: RE:Testing
By: slacker to deon on Sat Nov 16 2024 06:09 am

Some other random question (sorry for so many), I noticed if I upload a bad NETMAIL packet to the 'View Packet' checker, I get an actual NETMAIL response to my name at my node. Are those supposed to be actually processed? Or should that error have come in the 'View Packet' page?

Oh, no that shouldnt happen.

I am using the same logic in the packet view, but it shouldnt trigger any bad message netmails. Could you zip up one of your packets and put it in my inbound (or email it), so I can debug it?

I can't seem to figure out what's wrong with my netmail packets. I keep getting a 'The from.*or to.*address in this netmail is the wrong address for the domain'. I'm specifying a from and to address so I'm not sure why they keep failing.

Maybe I'm addressing the to/from fields incorrectly in the message?

I think the bug is with me. I've just looked at one of these messages and it is a mistake - and it's probably because the view packet is triggering validation rules (it shouldnt) and its failing validation.

Just by looking at the badmsg netmail you got, I think your packet is OK - but I'll know for sure when you send it.

Thanks for letting me know.


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Re: RE:Testing
By: slacker to deon on Sun Nov 17 2024 05:17 am

Howdy,

I zipped up the packet I created as well as copy/pasted what the website showed and sent it to you in an email.

Thanks - I'll take a look this week. I'm on the road with work so finding an opportunity might be rare...

Are echomails possibly also going through the same validation? I ran a bunch of packets through the page the other day testing. I saw you had a message on another FSX board about NET 3 running slow due to a bunch of packets. Hopefully that wasn't caused by me testing on the web... (I've since stopped).

They are.

If your testing of the web interface included a rescan then maybe it was you? No big deal - its on me, the view packet should just view the packet not process it in any way. Which I'll look at a fix.

(Those mails, there was about 15,000 of them ultimately were discarded by my dupe checker [relieved] - but at the time I was worried I had triggered something bad and wanted to be sure it wasnt snowballing.)


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Re: RE:Testing
By: deon to slacker on Sun Nov 17 2024 06:37 pm

Howdy,

I zipped up the packet I created as well as copy/pasted what the website showed and sent it to you in an email.

Thanks - I'll take a look this week. I'm on the road with work so finding an opportunity might be rare...

I took a quick look tonight and stopped the validation netmails from being triggered.

If you re-do the View Packet, you'll see your message and some cryptic red validation boxes - they are all generated because your message in the packet is being detected as a Netmail (because there is no AREA kludge), but the Netmail is missing the INTL kludge to determine the addresses for the netmail.

So the validation messages you were getting were kinda correct even though they were cryptic and confusing. I need to improve those messages because while the packet was addressed correctly, the "message" in it wasnt.

Hope that makes sense...

Are echomails possibly also going through the same validation? I ran a bunch of packets through the page the other day testing. I saw you had a message on another FSX board about NET 3 running slow due to a bunch of packets. Hopefully that wasn't caused by me testing on the web... (I've since stopped).

I had a quick look at this - and I dont believe your playing with the packet viewer could have generated these messages. I think they came from somebody else in the net. :)


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Thanks for taking a look!

I created a new netmail packet and ran it through the view packet page again tonight. It created a new netmail bounce to my node which I received.

I zipped up the packet I created as well as copy/pasted what the website showed and sent it to you in an email.

Are echomails possibly also going through the same validation? I ran a bunch of packets through the page the other day testing. I saw you had a message on another FSX board about NET 3 running slow due to a bunch of packets. Hopefully that wasn't caused by me testing on the web... (I've since stopped).

Thanks again.

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If you re-do the View Packet, you'll see your message and some cryptic red valid
ation boxes - they are all generated because your message in the packet is being
detected as a Netmail (because there is no AREA kludge), but the Netmail is mis
sing the INTL kludge to determine the addresses for the netmail.

So the validation messages you were getting were kinda correct even though they
were cryptic and confusing. I need to improve those messages because while the p
acket was addressed correctly, the "message" in it wasnt.

Thanks!! I'm now able to upload my test netmail packet tests and check them out. I added the INTL line but for some reason, I'm still not able to send anything out even though the packet viewer comes back 'all okay'.

I'm able to receive messages fine. I sent one from 2oFB to me and received it without error. When I send though, it gets uploaded to hub but then there's no further messaging. The web shows no netmail sent and I never receive an error or a bounce.

Any ideas there?

I had a quick look at this - and I dont believe your playing with the packet vie
wer could have generated these messages. I think they came from somebody else in
the net. :)

Wew! :D! Glad it wasn't me. I didn't attempt any rescans through the web. Just testing single message packets.

Thanks for all the help so far.

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